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Journalist and self-proclaimed Freedom of Information Act nerd Ken Klippenstein claims to have released Mangione's manifesto. He also believes that some news sources are withholding it.

Manifesto (source: Klippenstein)

To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.

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[–] gedaliyah 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mod: Please update the post title to match the original article.

Edit: Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Gizmodo regrets the error and the fact that our country is about to be run by vile billionaires who will enrich themselves even further.

XD

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 hours ago

Gizmodo flying a bit close to the libel laws in that article.

Despite saying they can't confirm it's genuine, then saying stuff like " it’s pretty clear that Mangione was motivated by the tremendous injustices regularly perpetrated by the healthcare industry in the United States."

Was he? Did he write those words? Is he the shooter? Doesn't this kind of reporting compromise the chance of a fair hearing?

Surely he deserves the right to a trial before being found guilty, as per the Sixth Amendment?

[–] twistypencil 36 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't think this qualifies as a manifesto. Definition requires that it be public, not found on someone: A public declaration of principles, policies, or intentions, especially of a political nature.

[–] skeezix 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The word “manifesto” makes it seem more sinister and clickable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

People call something a "manifesto" when they want to imply that it's a long rambling text written by a crazy person.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I personally think it still fits that definition

[–] twistypencil 2 points 3 hours ago

You have your own dictionary?

[–] nialv7 36 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

interesting that he mentions social engineering in the manifesto. makes me think he lured the CEO somehow and that's why he knew exactly when the target would be there. he waited for like 5 minutes before the CEO showed up, that was unrealistically precise if all you had was public information.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Stop making assumptions. The article is clear that we have 0 evidence that this is the actual.manifesto. at this point its just fanfic

[–] nialv7 3 points 6 hours ago

it was released by a somewhat credible source and most aligned with the bits and pieces already released by the media. of course it could still be fabrication, but i'd say it's relatively safe to think it's real. hopefully i don't make fool out of myself...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

It could simply mean he checked his public social media and knew where he would go. Social "engineering" can be as simple as a web search.

[–] nialv7 3 points 7 hours ago

well that would tell him the conference starts at 8am or something. based on that he could guesstimate maybe the CEO will arrive 1~2 hours before. but to narrow it down to 5 minutes? i think he would need something more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Its possible the author wasn't aware of the difference. And since the author was likely LE, it makes sense

[–] Dasus 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I could stalk a lot of people with 5 min accuracy, easy. Most people have schedules and routines. It's not rocket science.

[–] chiliedogg 1 points 10 hours ago

Or maybe he had more planned. He's vague about the scope of what he did, as if the letter were there in case he got caught at any point.

It would provide an explanation for him keeping the gun.

[–] givesomefucks 128 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Side note:

It's good to see journalists willing to make a correction

Correction: This post originally stated that Elon Musk had donated over a quarter of a million dollars to elect Trump and other Republicans in last month’s election. It was over a quarter of a billion dollars. Specifically, $277 million, according to CBS News. Gizmodo regrets the error and the fact that our country is about to be run by vile billionaires who will enrich themselves even further.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 15 hours ago

Based Gizmodo

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny how this is constantly being censored on reddit and likely other social media. I don't think the oligarchs like the message.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago

[ Removed by Reddit ] being on the frontpage for hours despite being expunged near-instantly is morbidly funny. The absence is speaking louder than the silence

██████████ (30k upvotes)

[–] militaryintelligence 103 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look how the pig is squeezing his neck, pretty hard from the looks of it. If Trump or his cronies were ever arrested they would set up a press box and microphones

[–] [email protected] 41 points 21 hours ago

I'm astonished that this is the only comment about that, it's the first thing I noticed.

In modern societies that grip is reserved for violent junkies, wriggling and foaming at the mouth

Yet nobody blinks an eye

[–] cheese_greater 113 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

This is great stuff and he's set out a very clear blueprint for deterrance. He's putting Corporate America and Big Health Insurance on a PIP so looking forward to everyone doing better :)

Nice to finally throw their goddamn motherfucking bullshit rulebook right back at them and force a Medical New Deal on them

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Quick and to the point. Is there anything this guy isn’t good at?

[–] samus12345 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Disposing of murder weapons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Literally parts of it were made in plastic and could have simply been burned lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Rowing, probably. Then again, core strength can lessen back pain. That's how I've managed a pinched disc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

Controlling the media narrative. Or at least that's my fear. Just finished watching "Interior Chinatown" and surprisingly relevant commentary on the "media spectacle". It expects violence but it won't just let you tell your story.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I swear it's how they recognized him

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[–] Lemminary 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Keeping a low profile while on the run, allegedly. :x

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

McDonald’s really should use this opportunity to release a “too irresistible” ad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You mean McDonald's competitors?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Hah! “No rats here. Burger King”

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Editorialized title. Please restore the original article title. He has not personally released or confirmed this document.
Edit: op has fixed the title

A manifesto supposedly found with him at the time of arrest has been "leaked" selectively without any confirmation from the man himself on whether it is legitimate or not. I still find the entire rapid stack up of evidence far too convenient for the police looking for an easy win to appease capitals interests in making an example out of a "fringe lone extremist".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's possible the bag with the monopoly money contained more evidence the police didn't tell us about, so they could plant it on their fall guy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Its also possible that wasn't his bag? Did we have any evidence saying it was?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don’t think this is complete. I read that police found a 3 page manifesto. That’s a long paragraph at best.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

I dont think this is even what police found. we have 0 evidence. The article makes this clear

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

Handwritten can sprawl real quick

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

edit: word

You're correct in that the NYPD said that it was a "handwritten, three-page document" -- I found it odd too -- but, the "document" could've been on one of those mini notebooks, or in large print, or scrawled.

From another perspective -- if the transcription is incomplete, then Klippenstein either (1) omitted text by his own hand, (2) could not acquire the entire document but was unaware that he hadn't, or (3) did not acquire the entire document but withheld his report's weakness of breadth.

I'm not sure Klippenstein's incompleteness is very likely

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[–] simplejack 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I assume the “Indecipherable” words are expletives? Maybe “fucking” and “assholes?”

[–] jordanlund 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Obviously, we'd need to see the handwriting, but just from context:

"United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart."

Should be "fourth". Fourth largest company. Unless he has a fun modifier on it like "fourth fucking" or "fucking fourth".

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