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Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.

“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.

After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”

“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.

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[–] enbyecho 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well I'm certainly disappointed in his "criminal sophistication".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

"sophistication"

[–] DarkFuture 66 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Our incoming president is a convicted felon and RAPIST who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election.

The rule of law doesn't mean shit anymore.

I could give 2 fucks if this guy lies through his teeth to get off the hook. Go for it bro.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

I mean. They probably really did plant the money to try and paint it like it was a hired hit or something like that.

He didn't say the gun and ID was planted, which were also found on him. I don't see why he'd be like "yupp that murder weapon and manifesto is mine but that money sure isnt" if it wasn't true. I mean, what does he have to lose (or gain) by lying about that?

[–] AA5B 63 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

My ez-pass transponder came with a faraday bag - clearly ez-pass is a criminal organization

A former employer handed out branded faraday phone and wallet bags as a tchotchke- I must have worked for organized crime.

Oh no, passport faraday bags are all over Amazon - clearly criminal and needs to be shut down

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Sounds to me like they couldn't catch the real shooter but they snared a doplerganger and figured they could frame him up fast based on his social media. It doesn't make sense, his family are millionaires.....the boomers might buy this crap, but anyone gen x or younger isn't going to believe this for one minute.

[–] x00z 4 points 11 hours ago

Oh god it would be funny if the real shooter would make a video dropping some unrevealed provable facts and exposing the government if that would be true.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Sadly, the most probable outcome from this is gonna be more privileges to CEOs. After all, they are now exposed to be killed on the streets. Maybe their insurance, as well as their brute salary, will also be way better. And surely, countless jackos are aiming for the vacant position.

[–] DarkFuture 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The outcome is the CEOs will get 24/7/365 security details and pass the cost off to their customers.

[–] Passerby6497 1 points 5 hours ago

How far away are body guards effective? Both laterally and vertically?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

I bet the security detail wouldn't even get insurance coverage for being wounded in the line of duty as it's obviously negligent to put yourself in harms way like that

[–] Alenalda 9 points 18 hours ago

With any luck people will be aiming for the non vacant position

[–] [email protected] 84 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

A computer programmer with a common cyber security countermeasure you can buy on Amazon indicates criminal sophistication?

Sure Jan.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon 31 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

His legal fundraiser has raised 27K in the space of a day. Free Luigi.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Please share where that is, 27k is rookie numbers. I personally plan to donate $10k once I vet it and know for sure where it'll go.

I'm 100% serious.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I've got a Faraday bag and foreign currency as well lol

[–] Altofaltception 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I live in Canada. I have a couple of US $ bills lying around. Does that make me a criminal?

[–] Jamablaya 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Have you not listened to Canadian politicians, watched what they do? Literally everyone that is not one of them is a criminal, and they make sure of it. You can't go a day without breaking 7 or 10 laws, you just hope not to gather attention. They let firearms license renewals submitted in the proper timeframe take 8 months to renew (not issue) so for 6 months a man can sit with a house with several "illegal" firearms hoping the RCMP aren't bored enough to spin by. They came up with this crooked scam to "relieve" of us the GST for two months starting tomorrow, but because of the politicking and the canada post strike, no one knows what is and isn't now exempt, normally people with a GST number get a letter in the mail clearly describing the deal. No, you can't just go by the federal websites. They're all bullshit and lies, you need to go by CRA letters you have in your hand, and you need those for proof later. I'm in a good situation, as my business, i simply set my prices accounting for GST, and add up everything GST applies to that I sold the end of the month, do the math on that number, send the feds a check, so I don't have to fuck with any of my prices, just say that I've decided to increase my prices by 5 percent for the period, I can do that if I want. Nobody wants to see a bar suddenly make everything that was even numbers become 5.45 for a beer, 5.52 for a rye. This is probably criminal too, increasing my prices 5 percent to save an accounting headache. What sort of absolute fucking idiot does something like this on that short notice to buy goodwill? Everyone knows Trudeau is done no matter what, this narcissistic death spiral is pathetic. Just like everything the last 6 years, he does not care one bit what it does to anyone. I'm sorry, this ain't really a reply to you, more a frustration rant i feel people need to see.

[–] lewdian69 5 points 16 hours ago

YES! You make me sick.
And I'll pay out the nose to be healed but not trust the cure thank you! That's my right!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago

quietly removes Egyptian pound bill from wallet

[–] skeezix 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You criminal fuck, get out of here.

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[–] werefreeatlast 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

My Christmas cookies from Costco come in a Faraday Cage.... I'm so criminal right now!

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (6 children)

So alls they got is a faraday bag, he likes playing computer games, and a recently used gun? Oh yeah…hundred percent this is the guy.

/s

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (14 children)

It makes perfect sense for this to be a frame up because one of the incriminating items was a "Recently Used Ghost Gun", a cheaply made 3D Printed gun that leaves no special marking on the bullet and can only really be used once. They are made to be used for crimes and discarded quickly, which is why some congressmen want to see restrictions on 3D Printers.

This raises an interesting question: How the fuck is he dumb enough not to dispose of the gun that was meant to be disposed? And has two answers: He's just that fucking stupid or The evidence was planted

[–] dual_sport_dork 9 points 15 hours ago

cheaply made 3D Printed gun

You could, if you were so inclined, make a rather nice 3D printed gun. Just saying.

that leaves no special marking on the bullet

No firearm on Earth actually does this, not even commercially made ones. The fantasy of "microstamping" has been just that, purest fantasy, ever since it was dreamed up by (I believe) some California legislators that were equally out of touch with reality. Forensic ballistic analysis does not work that way. In almost all cases, you cannot identify a gun by a recovered bullet or casing. You can, however, potentially match a casing or recovered bullet to a gun you already have in your possession.

and can only really be used once.

This is patently false, unless you suck at printing and assembling your gun.

They are made to be used for crimes and discarded quickly

Tons of people design and print their own guns purely as a hobby. Furthermore, before the advent of 3D printers plenty of people manufactured their own firearms without the aid of any such device -- again, largely as a hobby or to have complete control over the manufacturing tolerances of their gun. Making highly tuned 1911 "race guns" for competition shooting is and was very popular, for instance.

[–] Bgugi 18 points 19 hours ago

"Ghost gun" is just a pejorative term invented to make "homemade firearm" sound more spooky. You have taken propaganda hook, line, and sinker. The only difference between a "ghost gun" and a regular gun is whether it was serialized by a licensed manufacturer. While there are a few extremely niche homemade guns that could be categorized as "disposable," the vast majority are Glock- or AR-pattern firearms that use a full complement of factory parts.

It costs as much or more to finish your typical "ghost gun" than it does to build or buy a serialized firearm. They will also typically leave all the marks you'd usually expect on bullets and casings, because all the same parts touch the same way they do in a serialized firearm.

[–] Qwazpoi 16 points 22 hours ago

You don't seem very knowledgeable about the gun used in this situation.

All articles about what was found on him kept mentioning a metal slide and barrel along with a regular Glock mag, that heavily implies it was just a 3d printed Glock lower so basically just a regular Glock. The only way it would "leave no special markings on the bullet" would be if he used a gun with a plastic barrel, but I believe the FBI said shortly after the og liberator was released that it leaves enough plastic behind to be traceable.

In practice the gun is a regular Glock, that would be easily identified as not being legal in a few states. My guess would be that they weren't getting rid of it because it's still a perfectly serviceable firearm and he might have been planning on using it again or at least it probably seemed like a good thing to have when he was in fight or flight mode.

If you really want to get rid of evidence the metal barrel is going to be the most important thing to get rid of as far as being linked to a shooting. Ghost gun is just bad in general unless you are in one of the states that says it's fine

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