Jamablaya

No. It isn't. I don;t know why it is so hard to distinguish that the country is the government, The people are just people.

Canadians are disgusted by their country, go talk to some. I'm gonna give the rest of that the respect it deserves by ignoring it.

I remember him clearly, Preston Manning, Stockwell Day, Brian Mulroney. Even the most unpopular of the three never earned himself that visceral, down to the bone hatred in a ridiculous number of people. The odd "Stop Harper" sticker on traffic signs vs a whole country awash in "Fuck Trudeau" flags. They're even common in the lower mainland of BC. More to the point, like Jean Chretien and Paul Martin, and Harper too, they needed minimal security for a short period of time, if at all, after leaving office.

Sometimes I think Trudeau has such a hard on for gun control because he realized he's the first PM who is gonna need american style security till he's an old, old man. Every other PM just kinda slid back into normal life but he's not gonna have that privilege. Can't think of anyone pissed the public off to this degree in Canadian politics since his dear old dad.

Miss the point some more. Patriotism/Nationalism is directly related to whether or not there's any regard for the government, federal in particular. That's gone. You are a direct result of the "post national state" someone wanted to build. You wanna know what happens when nationalism really tanks? YOu get guys like me that could seriously care less if the states took over tommorow, one eastern bullshit federal government is the same as another