this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2024
123 points (97.7% liked)

politics

19234 readers
3027 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Donald Trump declared on Truth Social that the U.S. “should have nothing to do with” Syria, sparking criticism from experts.

Critics noted that 900 U.S. troops are currently stationed there, assisting Kurdish forces to prevent an ISIS resurgence.

Experts fear Trump may withdraw these troops, potentially destabilizing the region.

Analysts warn this stance reflects a shift toward a reduced U.S. global influence, with some seeing it as a preview of a post-American global security order.

Critics also question Trump’s understanding of U.S. involvement in Syrian affairs.

top 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Maggoty 107 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Look at his record.

He gave the Taliban everything they wanted and called it peace.

He gave Israel everything they wanted and called it peace.

He gave Turkey the green light to take Kurdish territory and called it peace.

He wants to give Putin everything he wants in Ukraine to call it peace.

Of course he's going to withdraw US troops from Syria/Kurdistan and call it peace. That's what he does.

[–] Mirshe 5 points 1 week ago

This is his strategy. He thinks diplomacy is just walking into the boardroom and saying "alright, what do you want" so long as it's not YOUR stuff you're giving up. Trump is perfectly happy to give up OTHER PEOPLE'S STUFF, other people's territory and homes and even lives so long as it's not HIS stuff, HIS territory, HIS life.

[–] Sanctus 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah its because Baby Bashir is done for and Russia just lost something important it used there, an airbase and ports. Everything Trump does is to help enemies of the United States or himself and his buddies. This is absolute obvious corruption and its madness we are going there again.

[–] Makeitstop 12 points 1 week ago

Everything Trump does is to help enemies of the United States or himself and his buddies.

Insert the "same picture" meme here.

[–] JeeBaiChow 21 points 1 week ago

Well, he did chicken out from Afghanistan, and threw in warm overtures to the Taliban at camp David. Might as well get in the Syria act too. Let's have the other superpowers take a turn in geopolitics.

[–] captainlezbian 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The kurds are some of our longest standing allies, could we please stop fucking them over

[–] Maggoty 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh they know. As one of them explained it to me 20 years ago, they always knew it was temporary. They accept American help when given but do not make plans to depend on it. They did that once and got slaughtered by Saddam.

[–] captainlezbian 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have no doubt. But also, one of the signs of our soul is how we treat them. They're allies who share many ideals with us in an unstable region and just want democratic autonomy. They keep helping us. When we fail them we prove ourselves worthless to the world

[–] Maggoty 3 points 1 week ago

Yup, and I feel it every time. I suspect there's a few of us who had the chance to actually see Kurdistan who feel the same way. But considering both parties seem intent on throwing them under the bus at every opportunity I don't have any hope.

[–] skeezix 15 points 1 week ago

Why do they fucking question it. Trump’s understanding of world affairs is on par with a 5 year old. There’s no debate there.

[–] phoneymouse 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We didn’t want to get involved in Syria, but we literally couldn’t avoid it because the US created ISIS, a group that was born in the power vacuum left in the aftermath of the Iraq war.

[–] Doorbook 5 points 1 week ago

they literally funded them with weapons and training, they are supporting kurds only to buy oil at cheap costs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Correction: The US created and still supports ISIS.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bibi has claimed the fall of Assad is because of him.

He seriously just claimed Israel is directly responsible.

On, and they've started invading Syria.

Jordan is next.

[–] Maggoty 5 points 1 week ago

I just can't with him anymore. God forbid HTS, the Remnants, and the Kurds be allowed to form a stable government. Because of course Bibi is also bombing targets inside Syria with no pretense of them being Iranian anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

900 troops doesn't seem like a lot. Does that amount really make a difference?

[–] jj4211 10 points 1 week ago

I would think so.

For one they are likely very well equipped.

For another, it may be less about the troops themselves and more about the implications of what happens if you mess with American troops.

For example, read up on operation Paul Bunyan for an example of what happens when you mess with a seemingly manageable American force.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

These "troops" are likely more combat controller than footsoldier.

[–] AngryCommieKender 4 points 1 week ago

Last time US forces in Syria got attacked they went 40 to 500 and lost 0 the Russians lost about 250-300

https://youtu.be/viuUzGGac5M

[–] CharlesDarwin 2 points 1 week ago

I need to get that Samuel L. Jackson clip on my phone and at the ready, so I can play "Yes you did! YES YOU DID!" at the magabrained that are all pikachu face over voting for donvict.