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[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The insurance industry has pushed back against the outrage. “The people in our industry are mission-driven professionals working to make coverage and care as affordable as possible and to help people navigate the complex medical system,” said Michael Tuffin, the president of AHIP, a major trade group, on LinkedIn.

I am curious if Tuffin would support a single-payer system to make the US medical system less complex. Perhaps the savings from all that wasteful insurance company spend could be used to help bring down the cost of providing medicine.

[–] DaddleDew 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“The people in our industry are mission-driven professionals working to make coverage and care as affordable as possible"

That $358 Billion profit they've registered in 2023 says a lot about how much all those "efficiency" savings are being passed to their customers.

[–] ultranaut 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think that's the revenue number and profit was around $20 billion. Which is still an incomprehensible amount of money that could have been spent on actual healthcare instead of extracted from their victims.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

20 thousand million dollars is an incomprehensible number. Let alone to profit for healthcare.

A functional government would have regulated the entire industry into something reasonable and sustainable decades ago.

[–] Serinus 9 points 1 week ago

That doesn't count executive compensation.

[–] spankmonkey 19 points 1 week ago

Not to mention the profit is on top of the costs of negotiating and processing the complex shit system that they lobbied for.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

"Mission driven people" is like "family-owned company": you can apply that to nearly anything.

The mission being to screw over people enough to increase profits more next quarter.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] Plastic_Ramses 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mike--the online vitriol is horrific. Every single person I know who has worked in this industry has done so because they see it as a way to help people at their most vulnerable moments. At my company, we receive thousands of member calls each month. Every single response to every single one of those calls from someone in need of help is an act of service. How awful for Brian's friends, family, and colleagues to have to read such ignorant hate.

Just wow, well i hope brians parents are absolutely ashamed of themselves for raising a terrible human being as a son.

Brian deserved everything he got and much more. If there actually is a hell i hope hes there for eternity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I often wonder how genuine such polemics are.

From my professional experience working with US companies, such attitudes are more of a cover. "It's technically not illegal, so my actions are just and fair irrespective of the real world impact." There is a fair share of "true believer" types (not at the senior level though), but they are a lot rarer than the amount of public facing polemical copytext would suggest.

This is not a critique per se, more of an observation. I enjoy working with Americans, they are pretty laid back and can be relatively generous with comp if you know what you are doing (and you know how to sell yourself).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't go to that degenerate hellsite. It makes me feel extremely misanthropic and despondent.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 1 points 1 week ago

linkedin is tumblr now?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks. Just reported his post as ‘fraud or scam’ lol. I know nothing will happen but it made me laugh.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Sweet lord. The Insurance CEOs and their Toadies are scared lol.

Good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Looks like the post is gone now…

[–] PriorityMotif 6 points 1 week ago

Insurance companies don't pay nearly as much as what a normal person would pay out of pocket.

[–] Feathercrown 4 points 1 week ago

When I become dictator of the united states I will retroactively make lying on this scale illegal and punishable by an eternal sentence in The Pit

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

You have sewn the wind...now you shall reap...the Barry

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait a second, is he asking the public to delay the investigation and deny when asked and defend him in case of arrest?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you’re on the jury you can deny the evidence right in front of you. UnitedHealth does it every day.

[–] glimse 10 points 1 week ago

Oh their LAWYERS are saying it was first degree murder?

Well I've got someone here with an associates degree who denies that claim.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Don't forget about the one that said "depose". That's the most important one.

[–] fuzzywombat 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can imagine a headline "Republicans swiftly call for gun control measures after a senseless shooting of UnitedHealthCare CEO."

[–] Feathercrown 10 points 1 week ago

Yo an article about the company's practices? Neat