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[–] FinishingDutch 6 points 2 hours ago

Non negotiable sounds fine with me. Because we don’t negotiate with terrorists.

I’d like to give a heartfelt thank you to Microsoft management though, for furthering the cause of Linux adoption. We couldn’t have done it without you. 🙏

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

What i wonder, is:

  • TPM a black box and then, why should i trust it
  • if not, why not just use RAM as protected memory instead?
[–] Sam_Bass 1 points 2 hours ago

And closes the door on market share as well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

As a W10 user,.....Oh no don't....

....Come back.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 hours ago

That's fine, I've closed the door on supporting Microsoft. They could have just charged for the 'upgrade' and that would have been better since it wouldn't result in the colossal amount of e-waste that this is creating. Even without the forced obsolescence, their products have become hostile, invasive and generally just a PITA to use. Meanwhile Linux distros are knocking it out of the park lately.

I really don't know what Microsoft are thinking. They haven't made particularly good strides towards gaining any kind of goodwill, so once it becomes common knowledge that alternatives not only exist but actually show them up, those lost customers are people that they will never get back. Look how pathetic their marketshare is for Edge for example, even though it's the default browser on Windows. They still haven't been able to shake off the bad stigma that Internet Explorer had (and to be fair, they aren't doing people any favours with Edge either).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Tech illiteracy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

I know everyone here foams over Linux, and for good reason... but please remember the average user is a techno-fobe who struggles to find the start menu. Linux just isn't an option for a lot of people. Windows has been around so long and feels familiar. Until there is a major demographic shift and ECE training on general computer use an basic troubleshooting... the majority of the population will stick with whatever arrives when they turn it on because "It's what they know".

If Linux is to take over it must come PRE-installed, Must be fully compatible (read: plug-n-play); even with the weird printer your aunt found in a garage sale, at-least feel familiar to the majority of users.... and for corpos... run MS office (read: excel) natively.

[–] aesthelete 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If Linux is to take over it must come PRE-installed, Must be fully compatible (read: plug-n-play); even with the weird printer your aunt found in a garage sale, at-least feel familiar to the majority of users… and for corpos… run MS office (read: excel) natively.

Or we could just not care if it "takes over"?

Even if Linux was and did all of those things -- and many of them are already crossed off of the list -- it may not "take over" and despite some corporate spend from some of the backing corporations, it's not really a profit driven ecosystem. Linux doesn't have to take over and do exactly what Microsoft does, Linux is just fine as is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're right. Also, how bad Windows 11 is is massively exaggerated, once my machine was set up, all I've done is remove a few programs like One Drive from loading on start, and it's been fine.

I do need to figure out how to get rid of the news and weather thingy on the start menu, to be fair.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

It'd take a fresh install, but W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC is how all current Windows should be. Only has Edge + Defender.

You can find it on massgrave.dev

[–] kshade 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

even with the weird printer your aunt found in a garage sale

Windows isn't supporting that anymore either.

at-least feel familiar to the majority of users

Start menu is at the bottom left of the task bar, you can start Chrome from there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Some random old printer is much more likely to be plug and play on Linux these days than it is on windows.

[–] itsJoelle 2 points 3 hours ago

I’d argue it will be Android/iOS/ChromeOS over Windows, for better or for worse. This fucks over companies and governments than it does the average user, in aggregate.

I spend a few months here and there just using my iPad for everything I can (I got through my college degree with one a long time ago and it’s nostalgic for me), and it’s crazy to me how feature complete it is for most work flows. Exactly programming is an issue, for me, but I can create an STL to printing it all on device! Much less office and what not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

I installed Linux Mint on my wife's ageing Thinkpad (2016, new battery is en route but everything else works fine). Windows would struggle to even start its own file explorer (lol), so I said no more of that bullshit.

She is happy with it, apart from ProNote not working (she uses the web client instead).

[–] buzz86us 23 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Linux adoption intensifies

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe in a decade from now Linux will achive 7.5% market share, maybe

[–] CriticalMiss 8 points 6 hours ago

You only need about 15% for commercial support.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

This feels like such a fuck you to working class. People can’t afford another layer of these costs right now.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

My dad's bringing his PC to my house when they visit for Christmas so we can setup Linux as a dual boot for him to see if he can switch from Windows 10 to Linux instead of buying a new PC

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

My dad (in his mid 80s) told me proudly that he had just bought Linux and installed it on his computer. It's great that he wanted to try Linux but I wonder what malware-riddled scam distro he found, and how I'll sort it out on my next visit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Zorin has a pro tier that costs money but it's supposed to have the look and feel of classic Windows - maybe it's that?

[–] Eldritch 5 points 5 hours ago

You used to be able to buy physical media. And that may be what they're talking about? Hard to say. For a long time this whole write it to a USB stick and install it was newfangled and not at all common. I 100% have a version of red hat in a box that I bought off a shelf of a local Best Buy back in the 90s. Yes you could have just downloaded and installed it or created your own install media. But having your own CD burners even weren't that common at the time. I remember 1999 being when I got my first CD burner and how special that was lol. It seems almost quaint by today's standards. And downloading wasn't really an option either. 56 kilobits per second if you were lucky would have taken days and days. Now it's just minutes over most broadband.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

I gave my distro dev $20 for the bragging rights. More than I ever paid for Windows.

[–] cm0002 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't Ubuntu and a few other distros still sell physical install discs?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They used to, but I don't think they do anymore. In fact, I think they used to send one to you for free. I got an official Ubuntu install disk for free at college (someone was handing them out), and I've been on Linux ever since.

I do see Ubuntu install USBs on Amazon, but I wouldn't trust those.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I ordered one years ago, still got it in the display cabinet but I'm sure it's long rotted at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, I wish I still had mine, it was from before I started hating Canonical. What a great piece of history that would've been.

But no, I threw it out like I did so many other things at the time, because having less stuff makes moving a ton easier.

[–] 3laws 21 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Can't be that bad. Some distros accept donations. It just could be that he felt he was making a purchase rather than just a donation.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 hours ago (12 children)

Thank you Microsoft god bless I will stay on core 2 duo forever 🙏🙏

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