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Summary

Donald Trump and Republicans are falsely framing his 2024 election win as a historic “landslide” and sweeping mandate, despite the data showing otherwise.

Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6%, the smallest margin for a winning president since 1968, and his 307 electoral votes rank low in U.S. history.

Crucial Senate and House gains were limited, with Republicans relying on gerrymandering for their narrow House majority.

This exaggeration of victory serves to justify potential power expansions, but the facts debunk claims of an unprecedented or overwhelming mandate.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

That really doesn't make me feel that much better about it, but I guess we're mostly trying to find the corn in the shit on this one, so thanks?

[–] boaratio 48 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe if we correct the Republicans they'll listen. Yeah, that'll work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans are trying to gaslight us by calling Trump's win a landslide. The point isn't to correct them; it's to make sure we don't believe the lies they tell us.

[–] madcaesar 4 points 6 hours ago

The problem is that in practical terms it is a landslide, because of the way our shitty system is setup. They have control of all 3 branches now.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 4 points 14 hours ago

It's not gonna win anything and we shouldn't act like it will.

Still, no reason not to be correct about it. He's gonna try and make his delusions national news, so, gotta have the reality out there.

[–] Cheems 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

When I was younger I thought the saying was, "nip it in the butt"

I dunno it always made sense to me.

Anywho carry on

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent 1 points 6 hours ago

I thought it was "nip it in the butt" as well. Listening to Les Mis 10th Anniversary Edition, the way the gentleman who plays Javert always sounded like "butt" to me as well.

To answer the other commenters question of what would that mean: for years, I thought it meant "nip" like a dog will nip your finger, and "in the butt" was like, "you'd pinch em in the butt" to get them to stop whatever they were doing.

Also thought the line "Burnin' up his fuel, out there, alone" in Rocket Man was "Burnin' up the atmos-PHERE, he's gone" for years before a friend corrected me.

[–] Doomsider 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Please explain what nip it in the butt means.

[–] AngryCommieKender 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pinching off a turtle head to prevent shitting your pants.

[–] Doomsider 3 points 15 hours ago
[–] Maggoty 27 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

That's not going to fly when the entire country saw him sweep the swing states. That's part of the fuckiness of the EC, he only won by a tiny margin but visually state after state went red on the TV.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago

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[–] [email protected] 202 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (27 children)

It’s time to nip that lie in the bud

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of nipping MAGA lies in the bud every day. It's been the better part of a decade of this bullshit already... I fucking hate that my countrymen chose this for us for the next four years. Fuck every Trump voter, but a much bigger fuck you goes out to all the jackasses that stayed home on the 5th. You're complicit, and I don't give a shit why you think fascism is "okay" as long as you got to punish the Democratic Party for your grievances.

[–] brucethemoose 29 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

I think the bigger message is that our information environment is totally screwed.

The eye-opener for me was watching our local news station interview college students coo and rave over how "strong" he was and repeat (apparently not) obvious misinformation.

It wasn't about apathy, not really... He just won an influencer war. And now the CEO of Twitter is basically president..

[–] Gammelfisch 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Wait until the idiots graduate and look for a job. The Orange Bag of Shit holds the record for US unemployment and he has a very good chance of breaking it again.

[–] brucethemoose 4 points 17 hours ago

To be fair, and president would have been screwed over during covid, even if they had "contained" it (which, looking at China, seems highly unlikely).

[–] horse_battery_staple 35 points 1 day ago

Exactly, until media reframes this from distraction politics to a call to action none of this matters. Wake me up when we have a functioning government again.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

I'm sick and tired of anywhere near half of the voting public choosing him.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Doesn't matter. He won the presidency. He has demonstrated his entire life that he will just do whatever he wants and dare the world to stop him. (Narrator: They haven't.) Now he also has near-complete criminal immunity once he's inaugurated. He's already stacking up appointees who are going to follow his orders.

"B-b-but Senate confirmation --" Shut the fuck up. Whoever he wants to be in charge of departments is going to be in charge of departments. Don't appoint anyone else, throw "Acting" in front of the title, done and done. What is anyone going to do about it? Fucking nothing.

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[–] Cold_Brew_Enema 34 points 1 day ago

Who cares he still fucking won. We are fucked regardless.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago

Maybe the media themselves shouldn't have been running around talking about the absolutely massive and devastating defeat the Democrats suffered the day after the election... Maybe they should have waited for all the results?

Nahhh... Clicks clicks clicks! It's all that matters! Money money money!

All corporate media:

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

This is one of the reasons I hate talking in abstracts. I hear people talking about landslides, but what does that mean numerically? If there was a vote with a pool of 10 people and a candidate got 6 of those is that a landslide? Is 9/10 a landslide?

Some people talk "landslide" but without knowing what that means, it makes it hard to have a conversation.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

They already have power. They don't need a justification for expansion they'll just do it.

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