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President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, prompting strong backlash from Republicans.

GOP lawmakers criticized the move as an abuse of power and an attempt to avoid accountability, with figures like Rep. James Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley calling it hypocritical and corrupt.

Biden defended the pardon, citing “selective prosecution” and claiming Hunter was unfairly targeted due to their family connection.

Hunter faced convictions for federal gun and tax charges.

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[–] 800XL 4 points 9 hours ago

Who cares? Fuck them.

[–] 4grams 33 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Who fucking cares. trump did far worse and kushner walked away with a couple billion and not one person in the government or media batted an eyelash. We’re in a post factual society.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. Honestly all the self-flagellation, finger wagging and purity tests over this are exactly why the Democrats have lost and the Republicans took power over the entire government.

Trump gave his son-in-law’s daddy a pardon for crimes that included trying to blackmail a witness against him in a criminal case by hiring a prostitute and recording their sex.

Trump pardoned the murderers responsible for a massacre in Iraq.

Trump pardoned Manafort and Stone and others who committed crimes to get Trump into office.

The majority of Trump’s pardons were people who are personally or politically connected to him. I guarantee we’ll see far worse in Trump’s next term no matter what Biden does.

So yeah Biden can and should pardon whoever the fuck he wants, especially to those people Trump has threatened retaliation.

[–] 4grams 1 points 9 hours ago

Well said friend.

[–] Tyrangle -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So two wrongs make a right I guess? Why shouldn't we be holding all these people accountable?

[–] 4grams 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

In this specific case, because the hunter biden thing was political bullshit from the start. secondly though, the wrongs in question are nowhere near close to each other. third, hunters “crimes” were the typical presidential failson exploits I frankly don’t care that he excuses, perk of the job as far as I’m concerned. Getting your loser kid off the hook for drug and gun charges you know, not a coverup of the murder of a journalist for the bargain price of 2 billion dollars.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 21 hours ago

Exiting President handing away high profile pardons just before leaving office? I kind of remember when it happened before, and much worse: https://www.vox.com/22238571/trump-pardons-bannon-broidy-corruption

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Die mad about it, Republicans!

[–] Wogi 4 points 15 hours ago

I don't care if they're mad when it happens, that's just a nice bonus

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (10 children)

These two posts on my front page right beside each other.

Get fucked Republicans. You have no moral high ground here.

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[–] sunbytes 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure this was part of their plan. It's now legit cover for Trump to pardon whoever they want.

Plus yeah, they want to talk smack. It's not like they have any worthwhile policy ideas.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

He already did that during his first term. This has nothing to do with Trump. It also doesn't fucking matter. If people are mad about Hunter Biden owning a gun and doing cocaine, then why aren't they mad about Don Jr doing literally exactly the same thing?

[–] sunbytes 1 points 16 minutes ago

It doesn't have anything to do with Trump. But that's not to say he won't take advantage of it.

They're not mad at Don Jr because they don't want to be. That's all.

[–] Wogi 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I mean there's something to be said for handing them some ammo.

Dominate a news cycle with some bullshit and do something shady under the table.

[–] sunbytes 1 points 14 minutes ago

Jon Stewart outlined it pretty well.

The Dems put this artificial moral framework around themselves that limits how well they can compete with the Right, because it's important

But as soon as they need something for themselves or their family they just break it.

They never break it for the people who need it most.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Let em fume..anger is the only thing Magatards understand

[–] SulaymanF 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Republicans rage daily about something or another. Even after winning the election they still need something to hate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Indeed, if they ran out of things to hate they would have to invent new ones. It's the only way they can operate. The hatred is the only constant.

[–] DarkFuture 33 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Biden had all the justification he needed when Trump indicated he'd target his political opponents if he won.

Anyone complaining about this can fuck off.

[–] WrenFeathers 6 points 1 day ago

Yup. I’d do the same.

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[–] [email protected] 195 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, y'all mfuckers put a convicted felon, a rapist, a fraudster and a con artist as your president, so shut the fuck up.

[–] grue 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You forgot the worst one, which is "fascist wanna-be dictator."

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Republicans are faux angry. They clearly don't really care about the deed at all. If anything they're gleeful because they get to run around and call Biden a nepotistic liar.

Some Democrats are angry because Biden just handed the Republican a stinky turd that they're going to throw in our face every time someone brings up any of their lies or nepotism.

Many Democrats don't seem to care either, as long as Trump is worse.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only people allowed to be outraged on this are Democrats. The Republican party lost their right to be angry about this kinda stupid stuff shortly after they elected a rapist.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

... and someone who did the exact same thing.

[–] madcaesar 16 points 1 day ago

I'd argue he pardoned way worse people.

[–] Pacattack57 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Definitely a bad look but in all honesty it’s justified.

The right was definitely unfairly targeting Hunter. They were using him as a scapegoat since they couldn’t get to Joe.

[–] ATDA 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone needs to play the same game they do.

Is it hypocritical, yeah probably, does he have any reason to answer for it? Naw

Trump just put Kusher in a role .. a person he pardoned for ... "preparing false tax returns, witness retaliation, and making false statements to the FEC" per his own statement.

Right.

[–] nul9o9 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People voted this kind of behavior into office, repeatedly. Anyone clutching pearls right now can fuck off.

I sure as hell wouldn't want my son at the mercy of Trumps DOJ.

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[–] NJSpradlin 100 points 1 day ago (28 children)

I’m not pleased at the prospect of Republicans doing the same thing in four years, after the corruption of Trump’s second term, and then pointing their fingers at this… but, to anyone with half a brain and at least one eye… Hunter wasn’t in politics, wasn’t directly appointed to his staff or a representative in any fashion within the White House, and the gun and tax crimes are small fries compared to anything the Trump family and stooges are or have been up to.

[–] fluxion 120 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Prospect? Trump handed out pardons like candy to far worse people who happened to aligned with his politics. After 8 years of seeing Trump rat-fuck norms and laws and precedent and unjustly go after his family and get away with everything, while everyone else tries to play by the rules, Biden is probably asking himself why he has to let his son risk prison when he knows everyone in the incoming administration wouldn't even give a second thought to pardoning.

I don't support it, but I get it. This is the kind of shit America voted for, right?

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[–] DarkCloud 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Roger Stone, Steve Banon, Dinesh D'Souza all sorts of other crony based pardons were already done in Trumps last term.

Your Pearl Clutching the inevitable (as of it will now be Bidens fault) is ridiculous, and out of line.

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[–] Boddhisatva 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Prospect? Where have you been? Did you miss when Trump pardoned Jared Kushner's father?

Prosecutors alleged that after Charles Kushner [Jared Kushner's father] discovered his brother-in-law was cooperating with federal authorities in an investigation, he hatched a scheme for revenge and intimidation.

Kushner hired a prostitute to lure his brother-in-law, then arranged to have the encounter in a New Jersey motel room recorded with a hidden camera and the recording sent to his own sister, the man’s wife, prosecutors said.

In fact, this man who "pleaded guilty to 18 counts including tax evasion and witness tampering" has now been nominated to be Ambassador to France by Trump. There is no "prospect of Republicans doing the same thing in four years." They've been doing it for the last 40+ years already. You just haven't been paying attention.

It's about time the Democrats got of their damn high horse and got down in the mud and started fighting like they mean it.

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[–] Blade9732 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think Biden should use his pardon power for good. I don't have a huge problem with this, but I want him to do something unexpected. Biden should pardon all the married immigrants after his program was recently shot down in court. For those that don't know, Many immigrants are married to US citizens, but cannot achieve citizenship that you normally would be able to do. It hinges on entering the country Illegally, which requires them to leave for up to 10 years before re applying for citizenship. Biden could pardon the "crime" of illegal entry, this removing the INS statue of not allowing them citizenship.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fuck 'em. Let them fume. This is the party that wants to let the terrorists from Jan 6 off with a pardon. The party that thinks donvict can do no wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

https://x.com/joncoopertweets/status/1859602254577230289

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

I seriously think he should do a LOT of other shitty things Trump set the precedent for. Like perhaps seriously abuse that presidential pardon thing that Trump invented.

Like, I don't know, I'm just brainstorming here, perhaps order the assassinations of the future president and all of the key people circling around him. And then just go all Jesse Pinkman, "yeah! presidential immunity bitch!".

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