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In response to Donald Trump’s re-election, some same-sex couples, like Ben Nelson and Adam Weinberger, are accelerating plans to marry, fearing potential rollbacks of LGBTQ rights.

Concerns stem from the Supreme Court’s 2022 overturning of Roe v. Wade and past statements from conservative justices suggesting interest in revisiting the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges ruling that legalized same-sex marriage.

While the Respect for Marriage Act offers federal safeguards, uncertainty persists.

LGBTQ-friendly businesses are stepping up to support couples, but fears of broader restrictions, including on parenting options, remain widespread among the community.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Marriage is a vow, not an oath.

I understand why the headline is what it is but my inner grammar enthusiast can't just let it slide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

The Republican Party is turning into the Taliban of the United States. On the other hand, Americans knew that and knew what Trump is all about when they voted, and they walked right into this with eyes wide open, serving both Houses of Congress and the Presidency to that party. We deserve everything that's coming to us.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Do these people not realize that the government can just invalidate their marriage and punish them?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Breaking up marriages is recognized worldwide as an act of genocide, but putting restrictions on who can marry isn’t as universally recognized.

[–] AngryRobot 5 points 2 hours ago

They did it to my mom. She and her partner drove to San Francisco on that weekend when they were doing gay marriages in the mid 2000s. That ,marriage was canceled once they straightened iut the laws.

They're legally wed right here in Arizona now, but I wouldn't put it past these fucks to try to annul their marriage again.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The world hasn't cared about genocides since 1945.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

The world has never cared about a genocide that happened within a nation's borders.

Had Hitler not invaded other countries, there wouldn't have been any consequences more severe than a public condemnation.

Hell, there would have provably been foreign support for genociding Romani people.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Odd statement. The world has cared a lot more about genocide after 1945.

[–] not_that_guy05 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yet, has there been a full effort to stop the genocide?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

I'm sure Trump really cares about international law

[–] youstolemyname 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I'd personally be afraid I'd be putting myself on a termination list tbh, but others are probably braver than me.

[–] inclementimmigrant 6 points 5 hours ago

Isn't going to help when the Republicans and the Republican Supreme Court goes after Obergefell v. Hodges.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Gay marriages seem a bit purer to me because you know it's not about kids. They legit like each other.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Just because same sex couples don't birth kids doesn't mean we'll stop trying.

Anything is possible through Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I see that more likely with 2 females than 2 males. Unless Arnold Schwarzenegger JR becomes a thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I know multiple same-sex couples that got married explicitly for the purpose of being allowed to adopt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Well least it's not like biological clock is ticking so get pregnant now or else leading to bad choices.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm heterosexual and we were marred for 10 years before we had a kid. My brother has been married to a woman almost 30 years and has never had kids. My uncle has been married to a woman almost 50 years and has never had kids. I have lots of friends who are heterosexual and married and have no kids.

And there are two queer couples I'm friends with that do have kids.

On top of that, I know people with kids who never got married.

Marriage and children are really not related except when it comes to certain legal issues.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

I was thinking more being socially forced to marriage thanks to issues revolving around biological kids which to me "ruins the sanctity" of marriage. Meanwhile gay people don't have that issue. Like oh no someone got my pregnant if I don't get marriage my family stone me but my partner is a one night stand that I found out is a serial killer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

Well, some gay couples do have kids. Some men have ovaries and some women have testicles.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

My husband and I did this after the Dobbs decision came down and cited 'future reconsiderations' for Casey and Obergefell. Called a handful of friends and family and told them to meet us at the courthouse in two weeks.

Now, we are bracing to help people who may have to travel to our blue state to get married, just like they had to 15-ish years ago. We may not be able to leave, but we have some means to help others, so we are doing what we can.

[–] NotBillMurray 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm a registered minister in the church of the latter day dude based out of Oregon and am happy to marry lgbtq folks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

My partner and I got our partnership right after the election on a lazy day

[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (12 children)

I wonder what the chances are that the coming administration invalidate such marriages, probably on some dumb Christian nationalist grounds

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Supreme Court has already signaled that gay marriage is on the chopping block.

[–] x00z 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Weren't they against sharia law?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago

Only if you call it that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder how this would work with their anti-trans initiatives. If a transwoman tried to marry her girlfriend, would it technically be legal under their backwards laws?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago

No, they see us as criminals and will deny every right they can, marriage, public service, equal treatment under the law, medical insurance/medication, freedom of association, speech, and even our right to exist. The point is to criminalize and erase our existence from public life.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 hours ago

Logically yes, but they are not bound by logic.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago

Anything is possible, but it would be far more difficult to invalidate existing marriages than prevent new ones. Which is exactly why couples are rushing to get it done now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's already happening in Italy, so there's no reason to believe the GOP would hold back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Italy has never recognized same-sex marriage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, Captain Pedantic — they have same-sex unions (and recently banned travel for surrogacy specifically for gay couples)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

It’s not pedantic when it’s two different things.

[–] bitchkat 2 points 8 hours ago

No one should bet against it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

I feel like this is a good way to get yourself on a target list.

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