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Summary

California farmers, many of whom supported Trump, face a potential crisis as his immigration policies threaten mass deportations of undocumented workers, who make up at least half of the state’s 162,000 farm labor force.

Deportations could devastate agriculture, leading to labor shortages, unharvested crops, and rising food prices.

Farmers hope for solutions such as workforce legalization or expanded H-2A guest worker programs, though these have been criticized for exploitation risks.

Historical parallels to programs like “Operation Wetback” and the bracero system highlight possible labor and human rights challenges ahead.

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[–] garretble 129 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Still wild the conversation NEVER turns to the people employing undocumented workers and instead demonize the workers themselves.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 97 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The point isn't to actually deport these people, it's to give their employers and landlords a powerful tool to exploit them and prevent them from benefitting from any social services.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yep, the more precarious their legal status, the more compliant they are. This is all about suppressing labour rights.

That's why the Republican playbook regarding the border was always just talk, and Trump somehow doesn't get that it was always a scam to get the votes of the racists without ever seriously planning to follow through.

If all farm workers were legally in the US, they'd form unions right off the bat, especially since a strike during harvest season is going to fuck over a farmer financially within days.

[–] WaxiestSteam69 13 points 1 month ago

Not only does it cause compliance it creates a perfect setup for exploitation, extortion, and trafficking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

But pushing them too far could result in them just starting some fires and leaving to go cross the border back home. Sure they left for a reason but pushing them too far is going to make them leave for one.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

When you put it like that, it sounds like slavery with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck me, I hadn't looked at it this way and I should have.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 3 points 1 month ago

It's such a noble and rare thing to admit that you understand something on a deeper level because of an internet comment that I genuinely don't know how to respond.

Well done friend, and happy holidays.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

Yup. A place that my wife worked at employed at least one undocumented immigrant that got picked up by CBP. Did the company gave any fines or legal issues? Nope. But the undocumented employee had to pay a few thousand in fines and was never deported.

[–] Crankenstein 97 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My Uncle is a close friend of Jeff Landry (R-Louisiana) and voted for Trump.

Constantly would demonize illegal immigrants with all kinds of vitriolic accusations. Then would immediately brag that his hydro seeding company is making so much profit because he hires almost exclusively illegal immigrants and pays them peanuts under the table.

I've reported him to the state numerous times but nothing ever gets done (remember who he is close friends with now...)

I hope he goes out of business. I hope it ruins him.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Thank you for trying, I hope it ruins him too

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't even remember that the leopards ate their faces last time...

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Leopards ate their hippocampus

[–] troglodytis 9 points 1 month ago

Their hiphoppocampus, His lyrics are canyonus

[–] NarrativeBear 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But, but I though undocumented immigrants were lazy?! How can they both be lazy and take all the jobs?!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Don't forget they're also criminal murderer drug dealers. They take all the jobs, and steal everything, sell everyone drugs, then kill them all, but they're lazy about it. /s

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Schrodinger's immigrant

[–] lohky 35 points 1 month ago

Oh no, farmers lose the indentured servants they've been threatening with deportation for years!

Fucking morons. Enjoy getting your hands dirty.

[–] TheLowestStone 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (25 children)

California farmers are some of the most ignorant people I have ever encountered.

[–] WaxiestSteam69 2 points 1 month ago

I'm guessing the reason they didn't want to say who they voted for is cognitive dissonance.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hello Fuck Around, have you met my friend Find Out?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Sadly these rich farmers won't find out anything... They'll say there's shortages because of the deportations, whether there actually are or not, and will jack up prices to more than cover their profit at consumer expense. They fuck around, WE (and the ~~slaves~~ immigrant farm workers) get to do the finding out.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

It's because they can use it as a threat to keep the workers cowed.

[–] DarkFuture 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lol.

Didn't he have to bail farmers out last time due to his horrendous policies?

And farmers didn't learn?

That's pretty stupid? Is our food safe?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

The bailouts ensured they didn't have to learn. The only thing better than selling a product for money is selling less product for the same amount of money because the government subsidized you to offset their shitty policies.

[–] taiyang 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Too bad it's mostly the cities here declaring themselves as sanctuary cities for the undocumented. Weird that Latinos make up such a huge majority in the central valley, too, but haters gonna hate and boy does rural CA love to hate.

[–] RagingRobot 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If someone opens a farm in the city they will have all the workers!!!

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[–] wabafee 18 points 1 month ago

Poor farmers they have to actually get their hands dirty. Poor guy.

[–] PunnyName 15 points 1 month ago
[–] Iheartcheese 13 points 1 month ago
[–] grasshopper_mouse 7 points 1 month ago

Fuckin' dumb-dumbs. FAFO.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Everyone of these supporters needs to pay.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 6 points 1 month ago

Reap what you sow.

Double entendre intended.

[–] Sam_Bass 6 points 1 month ago

Its just another fafo, nothing to see

[–] Tedesche 6 points 1 month ago

Wah, wah, waaaaaaaaaah….

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

MAGA when they realize they are part of the collective America and are just as responsible for making it greater as anybody else.

[–] ThatKomputerKat 5 points 1 month ago

Well, that sucks. Oh well.

[–] capital 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Didn't we do this one already last time? It obviously didn't hurt enough to keep them from doing it again...

[–] pirating 4 points 1 month ago

I'm glad you're getting what you voted for dumbasses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They are probably hoping for more work availability and higher pay for themselves if they don't have to compete.

[–] Gammelfisch 3 points 1 month ago

Fuck the farmers who voted for Mango Mussolini and I hope the damn ICE raids their shit. Mango Mussolini will fail to break former President Obama's, Deporter-in-Chief, deportation record.

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