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[–] Nuke_the_whales 113 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

My doctor told me the best way to heal my back was to take a few weeks off work. She didn't understand why I was laughing my ass off, till I reminded her that most people don't get paid time off. Doctors kinda live on the moon in terms of what the rest of us can get

[–] Klear 65 points 1 month ago (6 children)

most people don’t get paid time off

WTF really? I know workers get fucked really bad in the US, but do most people not get time off at all?

[–] bestagon 39 points 1 month ago (7 children)

You seriously haven’t heard us complaining? Most people get something but a few weeks is unheard of. I think most people I know who even get pto have a little over a week/year between personal and sick days

[–] Klear 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I heard that. Never hard that most don't get any time off. You'll notice I asked rather than calling bullshit, since I didn't think it was impossible but thankfully it was just hyperbole based on what you say.

[–] MonkeyDatabase 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You really don't get any. You have to be well established in your career to be allowed to use it. You can't really say "I'm taking a day off next week" and expect your job to not look for a reason to punish/fire you.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, keep in mind that even if a job gives us PTO, any sick days we use come directly out of our PTO. So if you only get 10 days of PTO a year and you come down with the flu then bam, that is most of your PTO gone. It gets worse, even if we have the days and want to take a vacation, they don't have to let us use it and often it is very difficult to use our PTO.

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[–] EvolvedTurtle 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As an american Paid time off almost sounds like a myth

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[–] Legom7 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The minimum for New York is 40 hours of sick time a year that has to be earned. This had to be fought for.

[–] Glytch 8 points 1 month ago

Same here in Minnesota, although that only started in 2024

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[–] Nuke_the_whales 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not even American, I'm Canadian. Things are a shit show here too. I didn't get PTO, vacation pay or sick days until I joined a union. So this was before then. I remember my second job was working part time at a hospital for a while, which are run by the government, and I still had no PTO or any sort of protection or benefits.

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[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla 7 points 1 month ago

Some places combine sick time and vacation into “PTO”, others the accrual is so pitiful you’re lucky if you get a week’s worth of time off in a year.

My fiancé’s place of work is both of these things. She got really sick in August and burned through her PTO in a week, then had to go to work despite still being sick

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's American problem, I suppose. In the UK and even the 3rd world country like mine, we were paid at least 2 weeks off when working full-time.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 10 points 1 month ago

Sadly I'm Canadian. And we're as fucked as the u.s when it comes to worker rights. Thankfully I'm in a union now

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I knew that there wasn't any nationally mandated PTO, but I assumed that most of you had some in your contracts individually or union...FFS America, what are you doing!!!

In NZ we get 4 weeks/year and 10 days sick leave. Most companies have allowance for a couple of mental health days also, some even pay those days.

There is also bereavement leave, of up to 3 days. Parental leave of 26 weeks, your employer has to keep your job open for you to return to after the 26 weeks.

Source

Side note: we are full, don't come here. Actually we get left off maps, and we like it like that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

In Europe I don't think sick days even have a limit, at some point you need to actually prove you are sick and are not just saying it, but as long as you have a doctor sign off on it you can be sick as much as you like.

Often used when people have long-term illnesses or injuries that take a long time to recover from

Those sick days are totally separate from holiday pay. So I can be off for 2 weeks with an infection (with a doctor's note) and then take a week holiday, and they can't say boo.

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[–] MacGuffin94 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh you sweet sweet summer child. Here in the US we traded unions and labor protection for an extra $20 a week and rugged individualism.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Move to a developed country and find out that most people get paid leave.

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[–] ivanafterall 8 points 1 month ago

If you're lacking paid leave, maybe have your union take it up on your behalf?

Unless...no...

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's the one they call Dr. Gaslight He's the one that makes ya feel uptight

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Read that to the tune of doctor feelgood

[–] Anticorp 20 points 1 month ago

As intended

[–] lath 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doc's lying. We all do, some just don't linger on them.

[–] TrousersMcPants 18 points 1 month ago

Yeah the important thing is a lot of people don't have depression and/or anxiety regularly

[–] johannesvanderwhales 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Depression and feeling sad over sad things aren't the same thing. A lot of people who experience depression may not realize that their feelings go beyond just feeling blue sometimes. Really sounds like the doctor is right to raise this as a potential issue.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope one day to not have a constant barrage of sad things going on so I can find out if I actually have depression or not.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I second this. I wasn't exactly too optimistic before, but now I see no space for optimism at all :(

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Yup, clinical depression doesn't have a rational cause.

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[–] billwashere 50 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If you don’t have some anxiety, I’m pretty sure you’re dead inside.

[–] Noodle07 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm dead inside, when is the anxiety supposed to stop?

[–] Im_old 14 points 1 month ago

That's your problem, you went dead inside because of the anxiety. You should have died inside first.

Jokes aside, I hope you are going to get better!

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

"Do you think about self harm?"

"Just the normal amount "

"The normal amount is zero."

"Oh..."

[–] Sam_Bass 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She wouldn't admit it anyway

[–] Subverb 15 points 1 month ago

My first thought too. "She's lying".

[–] CluckN 35 points 1 month ago

Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up

[–] TrickDacy 27 points 1 month ago

The doctor was lying

[–] UncleGrandPa 22 points 1 month ago

At 70 i thought ... "Hey! I may last till 80!"

At 71 i, i think "oh hell i may have to last till I'm 80"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She was correct. There are some billionaires that have different mental health issues, but not those.

[–] Stamets 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I'm sorry but you seem to be mistaken.

Billionaires are a different species and we don't have enough research data to refer to in order to determine what mental illnesses, if any, they might have.

Don't lump them in with the rest of humanity because they aren't even people anymore. They are inhuman scum that has mistakenly evolved. A fucking virus. We went out of our way to eradicate smallpox but unfortunately we haven't successfully purged Billionarisim from humanity. I genuinely do not care how that is done. I don't care. They need to be removed from society at all possible costs before they destroy it.

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[–] Stonewyvvern 13 points 1 month ago

' "Uncontrollable" feelings of anxiety or depression' isn't normal.

Everyone has had anxiety and/or been depressed before. It's when it doesn't go away shortly after feeling it that it is a real problem.

[–] Etterra 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The doctor likely has a private practice, so without the heinous pressure of working in a hospital and all the money that comes from being part of the medical industrial complex, its no wonder the doctor isn't depressed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Contrary what you may perceive on the internet, most people aren't depressed, not just doctors with their private practices.

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