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[–] SarcasticMan 104 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Normally I would say mass exit with a big middle finger to the voters is the way to go here, but these guys could probably keep their jobs and the status quo by gaslighting that dumb son of a bitch.

[–] givesomefucks 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you want to see what resigning out of protest or fear from far right extremists leads to...

Look up the KKK's role in ending reconstruction, and what happened to the American South when anyone who wasn't racist was afraid to vote let alone hold position in government.

Giving up is rarely the right move, and federal employees have one of the strongest unions in America and it's comically hard to be fired unless you're a political appointee.

And that is entirely intentional and for this exact scenario.

Resigning just makes it easier for them for no reason. It concentrates the shitty employees who will go along with anything, and it shrinks the federal government when they don't try to restaff

[–] dhork 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's comically hard to be fired unless you're a political appointee.

Didn't they change the rules to count many more jobs as political appointees without protections right at the end of Trump's term, only to have Biden change it back? Trump is definitely doing that again.

[–] givesomefucks 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That still covered the very top of departments, not entire agency workforces

[–] dhork 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah. I wasn't aware of that. It still sucks, but maybe for the folks who are left and still protected by the union some malicious compliance is in order.

[–] givesomefucks 12 points 1 month ago

In this scenario malicious compliance is doing your job properly and efficiently.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

Yes, slow walk everything. Just act like you, too, have brain worms

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, stay. Occupy space. Drag your feet. Misinterpret instructions. Double and triple check them through slow back and forths. Just keep doing your real job until the idiots can get things in order through the bureaucracy to fire you. It'll probably be a while, if ever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't believe these dumbasses are making me hope for MORE bureaucracy

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I don't understand why foreign countries aren't scooping up this knowledge base. The brain drain in the USA is going to be so quick under this second Trump administration.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is not a place for smart people

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My friend is pretty smart and he left France to work in the US a while ago. He's pretty pissed at the election though, and afraid especially since his wife is black. He's seriously considering moving back to France.

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 month ago

He should do more than consider. Especially because of his wife.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I fear we're quickly becoming the next Sentinel Island, but not by choice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unfortunately as long as the US remains the global financial hegemon through the dollar, it'll continue to be the most lucrative place to obtain assets globally.

Double Unfortunately the dollar is probably going to reach 1985 plaza accords levels of strength vs other currencies, but without the global economy working together to help the US like it did before.

An overly strong dollar will likely destroy the US's ability to export goods.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I wonder if this will be the next WW2-scale brain drain like what happened in Nazi Germany.

[–] beansbeansbeans 3 points 1 month ago

They are. For example, the UK offers a High Potential Individual visa for recent graduates of prestigious universities. I'm sure they'll get more applications this year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Thank you for reminding me to update my resume this afternoon... IT, but lack of a degree (and probably more important, no second language) is probably going to bite me in the ass for emigration purposes.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I hate how every time this shit happens everyone jumps ship and just makes room for evil to backfill where possible. People stand your fucking ground and force these people out or make their lives miserable. Fight back!

Stop making it easy for them and allowing them to win at every turn!!

[–] misterundercoat 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is it a government employee's responsibility to "fight back" when the voters insist on installing the worst person as their boss? This is literally what the voters chose.

If the smart career employees want to get out while they can, more power to them. It's not their job to fight the will of millions of idiots.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So just because we lose you can’t do anything within your power about it? Way to roll over and die just because you lose an election.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile if the same guy showed up on lemmy telling you how much their corporate job sucks and their boss is completely clueless, everyone would pile on to say they should quit.

[–] misterundercoat 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. Imagine I'm a competent professional, just minding my own business and being good at my job, and suddenly I'm asked to become some kind of resistance hero and risk my career, my livelihood, and my family's future. Meanwhile, all around me I see the worst people installed in power and are actively looting and destroying my organization.

I could do that, or I could jump ship and make a decent living somewhere else.

The choice is simple, for those that have that opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

What, you're not willing to traumatize (or for those of us who have already had to fight evil from an incompetent boss RELIVE our trauma) yourself for the 5 minutes of delay it'll earn? What a coward you must be!

[–] phoneymouse 23 points 1 month ago

Once I interned in Washington DC.. you start to understand the mindset there. Everyone all over the US blames DC for the dysfunction in our government. However, the opposite is true, you people sent these dysfunctional people to DC, so really it’s your fault.

Same thinking here. Most government bureaucrats are well-educated caring individuals who are really passionate about their subject area. Expecting them to tolerate a toxic workplace because the American people can’t choose competent leaders is unfair.

[–] Dashi 14 points 1 month ago

Why don't you go get a job in the FDA and fight?

[–] beebarfbadger 1 points 1 month ago

Look on the bright side, we'll have so much raw data from the worst-managed possible country-sized control group. Except that they'll probably react to attempts to document the results of their policies with book burnings and witch trials. Well, maybe we can smuggle in some camouflaged researchers or just watch the obituaries or something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Any texas medical personnel here?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

I feel like every member of HHS and other agencies should agree to just scream “GET FUCKED, BRAIN WORM” any time he says anything until they are fired or he quits.

[–] wjs018 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I work in pharma, regularly writing and filing things with the FDA (and other agencies), and this has been a topic of conversation at work. The good news for people is that the EMA is still a thing in the EU. So, at least the large pharma companies (like the one I work for), are likely to not really change much about their quality control/processes/etc. because we will still need to conform to the EMA guidelines which are typically in line with the current FDA (sometimes more strict, sometimes less so). The real quality concern would be smaller companies that only file for products in the US. They would only need to meet whatever new FDA guidelines come into effect (if they even do, changing stuff like GMP guidance is extremely complicated and time consuming) since the US is their only market.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Until Trump bans exporting medication.

[–] Cenzorrll 2 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure most of our medications are made overseas.