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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I think you overestimate the amount of left leaning people in the U.S.

[–] Resonosity 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who said Lefts didn't vote for Harris?

Are you manufacturing this? Where are the exit polls?

Might a better reason for why Fascism won with this election be that Democrats, including Biden, Harris, the DNC, and the consulting class, failed to campaign to their own base, and even more than their base since most Americans, Dems and Reps, approve of progressive policies?

Projection man

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Biden got ~81m votes in 2020, Harris only got ~67m. >14m fewer people voted for her.

Trump also dropped by ~2m, only getting ~72m this time around vs. ~74m in 2020.

Trump didn’t win because of a giant right-wing national shift, he won because of voter apathy on the left.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There was certainly a right wing shift. The DNC did their very best (e.g. Cheney) to capture republican voters rather than represent the workers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

You need to seperate out the political machine from the populace.

The DNC did make a right-ward play to try and peel centrist/moderate voters who identify as Republicans but didn’t necessarily want to vote for Trump. They did this on the (now we know false) assumption that their base would turn out automagically.

But again, Trump won with fewer votes this time around than he lost in 2020 to Biden with. He didn’t gain standing, the only reason he was victorious was because those left of centre failed to show up to the polls. Voter apathy doesn’t denote a right-wing shift; it denotes a shit political platform.

Voters are still voting rather progressively on state-wide ballot measures, the people haven’t gotten more conservative - despite what the (elite-owned) media narrative would have you believe. Every datapoint and infographic regarding voter demographics is based on %s of voters, rather than absolute demographics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And you assume it's the left because? Not everyone who voted for Biden in 2020 was a leftist, and most weren't.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Leftist here. I voted for Kamala. All the leftist media I consumed argued for voting for Kamala. All the leftists I knew vote for Kamala.

What are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Leftists are so insignificant that we don't need to make any concessions to them but so powerful that they are responsible for any Democratic loss.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (13 children)

There were a few people on the left (with followings on social media) advocating for third party votes because Kamala wouldn’t say that she was going to stop sending money to Israel.

Post election, it looks like third party votes didn’t spoil anything.

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke 35 points 3 days ago (6 children)

The DNC would rather lose with a neoliberal than win with a progressive. If they want to get there shit together they have to win with the working class and ordinary people.

They can't be elitist centrists. They'll lose every election if they do. The future is now old man

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[–] simplejack 65 points 3 days ago (28 children)

I’m over pointing fingers and playing holy than thou.

The people who plan to build a Hungarian-style autocratic government are in power now, and they’re hoping the left is exhausted and tired of fighting this shit for a decade.

This shit is going to be dangerous, and we’re going to have to motivate people to push back hard than even. Pointing fingers just divides us and makes us even weaker.

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[–] hark 53 points 4 days ago (42 children)

Democrats continuing to blame everyone but themselves, as usual.

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[–] wpb 20 points 3 days ago

I'm doing my part! I'm yelling at leftists on the internet!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I did my job. The democrats had one job too, and they failed.

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[–] rigatti 38 points 4 days ago

The left didn't vote against fascism, but also the center didn't. And the right, obviously.

[–] reddit_sux 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Maybe the left didn't vote because there was only right wing parties to vote from.

Extremely right wing - Republican

Slightly centre right - Democrats

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

The oligarchs’ vision for ‘choice’

[–] Seasm0ke 12 points 3 days ago

Lmao lib shit tally:

Bullshit corporate media reference, check. Blaming the minority for the failure of the party, check Believing politics happens once every four years, check.

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