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[–] simplejack 65 points 1 week ago (30 children)

I’m over pointing fingers and playing holy than thou.

The people who plan to build a Hungarian-style autocratic government are in power now, and they’re hoping the left is exhausted and tired of fighting this shit for a decade.

This shit is going to be dangerous, and we’re going to have to motivate people to push back hard than even. Pointing fingers just divides us and makes us even weaker.

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[–] hark 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats continuing to blame everyone but themselves, as usual.

[–] minnow 20 points 1 week ago (28 children)

The Democrats could have run a turd as a candidate with the slogan "it'll be a shit show" and I'd still have voted for them with no regrets, because I understand that fascism is an existential threat. If the Democrats are to blame in any way, it's because they didn't try to get people to understand that OH WAIT THEY DID.

Should the Democrats have run a better candidate and a better campaign? Obviously yes. Is it their fault that voters were willing to let a fascist win? Not even a little.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guess what, not everyone thinks that, and a good politician would actually promise to improve people's lives instead of continually talking about how bad the other guy is.

Trotting out the least popular Republicans ever as being on your side didn't help either.

[–] minnow 19 points 1 week ago (12 children)

not everyone thinks that

Yes, obviously not everyone thinks fascism is an existential threat. Which is probably one of our greatest failures as a society, in terms of education.

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[–] hark 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That democrats weren't even willing to budge on their support for genocide means that they don't actually mind fascism. They can scream on and on about how dangerous trump is, but when they're kissing dick cheney's ass and trying to court other such "moderate" fascists, then they're just full of shit. So yes, it is largely the fault of democrats, who are the only other viable party in the country, for not fighting fascism. They set themselves up as the only solution and then failed to get the votes. Reminder that this is the same party boosting the campaigns of far-right candidates just so they can point at how crazy their opponents are. All they're accomplishing is helping out the fascist cause, which again, democrats don't seem to mind based on their actions.

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[–] inv3r510n 13 points 1 week ago

Prepare to lose again 2028 with this attitude.

[–] Omegamanthethird 7 points 1 week ago

I've reached across the aisle to vote for a conservative for 3 elections now against Trump. It would be nice if centrists and conservatives did the same.

If anything non-voter related is to blame, it's the global economy which has shifted every single developed country away from the party in charge. But that doesn't excuse the non-voters.

Now let's get Ukraine everything we possibly can and put as much pressure on Israel as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Leftist here. I voted for Kamala. All the leftist media I consumed argued for voting for Kamala. All the leftists I knew vote for Kamala.

What are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Leftists are so insignificant that we don't need to make any concessions to them but so powerful that they are responsible for any Democratic loss.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (16 children)

There were a few people on the left (with followings on social media) advocating for third party votes because Kamala wouldn’t say that she was going to stop sending money to Israel.

Post election, it looks like third party votes didn’t spoil anything.

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[–] Resonosity 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who said Lefts didn't vote for Harris?

Are you manufacturing this? Where are the exit polls?

Might a better reason for why Fascism won with this election be that Democrats, including Biden, Harris, the DNC, and the consulting class, failed to campaign to their own base, and even more than their base since most Americans, Dems and Reps, approve of progressive policies?

Projection man

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Biden got ~81m votes in 2020, Harris only got ~67m. >14m fewer people voted for her.

Trump also dropped by ~2m, only getting ~72m this time around vs. ~74m in 2020.

Trump didn’t win because of a giant right-wing national shift, he won because of voter apathy on the left.

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[–] rigatti 38 points 1 week ago

The left didn't vote against fascism, but also the center didn't. And the right, obviously.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke 35 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The DNC would rather lose with a neoliberal than win with a progressive. If they want to get there shit together they have to win with the working class and ordinary people.

They can't be elitist centrists. They'll lose every election if they do. The future is now old man

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I did my job. The democrats had one job too, and they failed.

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[–] PugJesus 21 points 1 week ago (13 children)

They share the blame, certainly, especially in depressing left-leaning turnout, but I think it was largely 'swing voter' twats sitting it out.

Suppose we'll find out when more detailed analysis of this utter fuck-up and handing the keys to one of the most powerful countries in the world to fascists is available.

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[–] wpb 20 points 1 week ago

I'm doing my part! I'm yelling at leftists on the internet!

[–] Seasm0ke 12 points 1 week ago

Lmao lib shit tally:

Bullshit corporate media reference, check. Blaming the minority for the failure of the party, check Believing politics happens once every four years, check.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

There's some non-zero number of voters who planned to vote for Biden, couldn't find his name on the ballot, and subsequently filled in the only other name of a President they saw.

"Yeah, he did the job before, he's got experience..."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep, that's why I used my totally meaningless non-swingstate vote for Cornel West.

The libs aren't actually mad about how people voted because the vast majority of votes don't matter. They're mad about the thought crime. They're mad about being exposed as politicians without principles who aren't even good politicians. They're mad that people don't like their dear leader. Libs like to see themselves are genoius thought leaders of some grand nation instead of just capitalist shills enabling fascism.

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