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Instead of a red mirage, we got a blue stayathomeandnotvote. Harris got 10-13M votes less than Biden in 2020, and even Trump seems to be getting less votes than the last time (counting still ongoing). I was told there would be a record turnout in this election.
How about this: minorities shifted TOWARDS Trump!
Yep. It's truly been an election that's not missing drama. Two assassination attempts, sitting president dropping out with 4 months left, open fascism, couch fucking, non-white female runner for the first time, all polls absolutely incorrect... Just to get an orange shit heap to fuck over Ukraine, Palestine and our climate. Could Igo back to the boring Obama years, please?
'member when one of the highlights was "these two should settle it with a pokemon battle"?
Again the polls seemed to be OK. I need to have the article ready with the headline "We are a normal polling error away from a landslide victory for either candidate".
Actually, no. If the landslide victory was within the normal polling error, like it was, you would see some polls giving a big margin for Harris, some for Trump and some having them tied. When all polls are indicating a very close race, something is off. Perhaps bad sampling, people refusing to reveal their candidate or some sort of consensus seeking in the polling methodology.
Shifted, or did the minorities who previously voted for Democrats stay home this time?
It's both. Diaper boy did better than ever with black and hispanic voters. Turnout was also lower.
The super misogynist manosphere influencers Trump went on a big run of interviews with make the big difference here. So many highly toxic GenZ males because of shit bags like that and A LOT of young non-white men listen to those podcasts and watch those videos
Depressed turnout has always been how Republicans win.
Yeah, except this time Democrats suppressed their own turnout
No, right-wing extremist propaganda pushed by the algorithms of youtube and tiktok suppressed the turnout.
That's a big part of it, but not all.
We've seen a global backlash against the party in power, in that context Harris refusing to distance herself from Biden absolutely contributed.
I would note that she stopped separating from Biden when she got the Cheney endorsement and swung hard to the right. That's where the campaign momentum died.
Actually, 20 million votes are suspiciously unaccounted for
People not turning out is not the same as votes "suspiciously missing"
People did turn out though, so many states reported record turnout, yet.. this..
Did people just go to the polls, see the choices and go "Eh.. nevermind" and go home? Like millions of people?
People turned out in most swing states, they didn't in safe states
I'd believe that if they all didn't turn red
we have numbers...
6,835,903 people voted in pa in 2020 6,950,214 people votes in pa this year, and we're not done counting yet
Source? Or are we down to republican level of accepting losing?
Or are we down to republican level of accepting losing?
Lemme play devil's advocate and ask if that would really be such a bad thing if we were considering being an unhinged lunatic gets your people elected.
Yeah probably it would be a bad thing. Republicans try to mobilize the idiot vote. To get that, you can be unhinged, but you alienate the more reasonable voters, the educated city people that the dems absolutely need.
Although it would be interesting to see two unhinged parties try to fight it out to get the idiot vote. I assume Italian political culture to be something like that, all the smarter Italians I've ever spoken to seem extremely frustrated by their system.
Biden won on memes of him eating ice cream, being old, being Dark Brandon, sniffing kids, claiming people aren't black, saying that poor kids are just as smart as white kids, etc.
During a term when Trump memes stopped because they were played out. Obviously the new rule is that the first person to become a meme goes into the White House, or as Trump calls it "The Whites Only House"
If they would have run an ad of Kamela Harris as Skibidi Toilet singing Numa Numa Ney, everyone would have voted for her. But instead they had memes of JD Vance fucking a couch.
Yess a new conspiry!
I went to bed Tuesday thinking I was going to wake up to much better news lol, I feel mislead
On Halloween I had a friend I thought was fairly Democratic say he was close to voting for Trump and that's when I felt the dread.
My moms' voted for Trump I suspect and they're avoided voting for Republicans for a long time because of homophobia. One of them would ask things like "do you think a woman can be president" and would talk about how great she thought the stock market would do under trump. They just retired, so their well-being is now a lot more dependent on the value of their 401k than before though, so it might just be that rather than broader trends. Otoh, I've also seen her listening to like 30+ minute snakes salesman things on Facebook and be seriously believing of the obvious scam.
Did they give a reason?
He joked about the insane amount of spam texts he was getting, but no real answer. He did say he ended up voting Harris/Walz.
Reminds me of 2016. All the polls and guesses were Hillary had it in the bag. Woke up that morning feeling like someone sucker punched me.
I've been wary of predictions since then if for nothing else than to save me from developing a drinking problem to cope. Expect the worst and you'll never be surprised.
I just assume the worst. Unfortunately this time I was right.
We'll have to see what happens when the final numbers come in, but I suspect the polls had it more wrong this time than in 2016. They actually weren't that far off at that time. People forget that Hillary did actually win the popular vote, and the national polls were within margin of error. That might not be the case this time.
Blue shift when?
I tried to warn people. But no one here wanted to listen.
I distinctly remember saying months ago that too many people on this platform were acting like Kamala had already won.
God damnit I hate being right.