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[–] LovableSidekick 12 points 13 hours ago

Apparently Hitler had a dog. So maybe reexamine your beliefs if you think dogs are good judges of character lol.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman 19 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

well, one thing i'll say in his favour: he did kill hitler.

(credit: jimmy carr)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

But he killed the guy who killed Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Is that really a Jimmy Carr joke? Pretty sure that's just something every school kid has heard

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Then you're part of the 23%. This poll is bullshit

[–] LovableSidekick 1 points 13 hours ago

That reminds me to rewatch Danger 5.

"Your mission... yada yada, and as always; Kill Hitler!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

23 percent of respondents said Hitler was a "good person or an equally good and bad person" or "a bad person who did some good things," data from YouGov showed.

What a bullshit poll. So basically anyone who recognizes he cared for a dog is seen as liking Hitler.

Anyone who said otherwise doesn't understand spectrums and is generally using black and white thinking, a sign of mental illness

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's a pretty wild interpretation of the question. It seems pretty clear the question is asking about opinion of his public acts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] Aeri 24 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

More than one in five apparently.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Hitler had one good idea. Right at the end when he decided to shoot himself.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 20 hours ago

Reminds me of this great street art I saw posted at some point. Can't find the source though.

[–] LordWiggle 15 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

He wasn't "all bad", he apparently was very good with animals, like his dog Blondie. He was a vegetarian. And that's probably everything which wasn't bad. For the rest it's all completely fucked up bad. No doubt about it.

Oh and I just remembered he was very good at giving directions. "were do I need to go?" "Take the third reich"

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[–] WrenFeathers 7 points 16 hours ago

I’m pretty sure we know now that that number is a lot more than we originally thought.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

He wasn't. He killed Hitler after all

[–] wildflower 236 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Judging by the latest election, the number seams a lot higher, more like three in five

[–] FlyingSquid 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One in five do not think Hitler was all bad. Two in five think he was better than a lady who laughs sometimes.

[–] wildflower 38 points 1 day ago

And the idiots that didn't bother to vote, accepted this outcome

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[–] finitebanjo 19 points 21 hours ago

Kind of a loaded question to include the word "all" but I understand the lack of faith or respect for the USA right about now.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's not fair phrasing and will lead to high numbers.

Hitler wasn't "all" bad technically, he was just so bad that the good shouldn't matter at all. Pushing forward technology (VW Beetle, Autobahn) should is no way be justified by genocide (obviously).

A better question would have been something like "do you like Hitler overall?"

[–] jj4211 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

The full poll data: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Views_on_Hitler_poll_results.pdf

Do you think of Adolf Hitler as. . . ?

  • A completely good person: 1%
  • A good person who did some bad things: 4%
  • An equally good and bad person: 7%
  • A bad person who did some good things: 12%
  • A completely bad person : 65%
  • Not sure : 12%

So 12% felt he was at least as good as he was bad, 12% fell into the 'well, even a horrible person can do something right, and 12% were somehow not sure...

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[–] resetbypeer 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's like watching a horror movie. You know the killer is in the basement, yet people go and have a look while the audience knows what's going to happen. A classic fuck around and find out.

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[–] anon_8675309 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is how hitler came to power.

[–] MisterFrog 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder when we're gonna get the Reichstag fire

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That was before he was elected, right? So the Reichstag fire was Jan 6. And the Trump history books will say it was Antifa.

[–] MisterFrog 2 points 10 hours ago

I'll be honest, I'm not super familiar on the timeline.

I'm not looking forward to the future though, even less so than before :/

Oh well, we persevere

[–] ChillPenguin 5 points 19 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

Sure, Hitler passed some of the first anti-smoking laws.

That doesn’t excuse all the other awful awful things he did.

Also his anti smoking laws failed as the war went on longer and longer.

[–] MehBlah 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fools never see evil until its at their door.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

They see the evil but think it will be to their advantage because they aren't like "those people."

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've got to stop talking about "if" and "when."

It's NOW. This is happening. We are watching the rise of the next Hitler, now, live, today. This isn't hypothetical anymore - yesterday just gave them carte blanche to go full stormtroopers.

At this point, all of our conversations need to be about how we stay safe in the wake.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Related: we've all heard the stories of a time traveler going back to kill Hitler before his rise to power. One common theme in almost all those stories is that the attempt fails, that's why history is as we remember. This morning has me thinking that maybe time travel was involved in a couple of Trump assassination attempts.

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[–] tja 6 points 18 hours ago

And I'm guessing none of those Americans have had relatives who were actually living during WWII.

[–] InverseParallax 12 points 21 hours ago

Obviously, Hitler even gave credit to Jim Crow policies as being an inspiration for his generic policies.

The dixiecrats aren't ashamed of that, game recognizes game.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

--Michael Rosen.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It doesn’t walk in saying, “Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution.”

Yeah but evidently it does, and people still choose it.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hitler was nothing without the NSDAP and the fascist movement.

There were 915,000 Germans in the Waffen-SS.


In case you don't remember, what we're talking about here:

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