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But in a fundamental sense, Trump’s most disturbing remark over the past few days may have been his unprompted comment about Abraham Lincoln during an appearance on Fox News: “Lincoln was probably a great president. Although I’ve always said, why wasn’t that settled, you know? I’m a guy that — it doesn’t make sense we had a civil war.”

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And if he is, here’s the thing: The Civil War couldn’t have been “settled” by moderating Northern demands that the South give up its slaves, because there was no such demand.

Yes, Northern states had banned slavery within their own borders and many Northerners considered slavery abhorrent. But outspoken abolitionists who sought to end slavery everywhere were a small minority. If the South hadn’t seceded, slavery might well have continued unimpeded for decades.

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[–] Myxomatosis 111 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The Civil War should have been settled by publicly executing every last Confederate leader. Would have saved us all a lot of trouble today.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Except the idea wasn't solely within those leaders. That was the major issue with reconstruction that followed. We weren't just fighting people, we were fighting an idea. We're still fighting it. We would only be so lucky to fully extinguish an idea by hanging a few thousand people from a tree.

[–] eran_morad 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It’s a part of my heritage to hunt slavers.

Battle Hymn of the Republic intensifies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You'd still have your heritage! And the heritage of hanging by your neck until dead!

[–] homesweethomeMrL 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

TL;DR: Trump doesn't understand shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not about understanding — it's about making nice with people who wish the South had won.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 6 points 1 month ago

indeed.

Don't fight uphill me boys! But it was too late.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the past he's said it takes him six or seven flushes to get anything down.

[–] CharlesDarwin 2 points 1 month ago

Is that why we keep trying to flush and this turd won't flush?

[–] eran_morad 15 points 1 month ago

If trump wins, my one solace will be that the cunts who voted for him will suffer.

[–] just_another_person 13 points 1 month ago

Brilliant writing.

[–] BeMoreCareful 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

New Yorker: let me tell you about the war of northern aggression.

???

I don't even

[–] captainlezbian 2 points 1 month ago

As an Ohioan let me tell you bout the war of southern aggression and how one of our boys had to go to Kansas and New York in response to that aggression…