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[–] EleventhHour 87 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That depends on how old you are. As a kid, I grew up in Orlando, and I got to go to Disney and Universal all the time. Enough that I got tired of it.

But back then, in the 90s, people still acted like civilized human beings when they went to two amusement parks. I’m just very glad that I have no desire to go back, especially considering what awful nightmare it is.

1996, a day pass for a Florida resident at Disney was $25. At Universal it was $18. Today, add a zero to the end of that, and you’ve got some idea of the amount of money they expect you to spend there. Just on the ticket.

[–] JustZ 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The people and prices are insane. The behavior is one thing, but the sheer number of people crammed into these tiny spaces is so uncomfortable and unpleasant. I'm alllllll set with that.

Look, the endorphins and other neurotransmitters that come from floating through the air on that big swing or down the giant slide are the same whether you're in Orlando or Oneida. Who needs all the other bullshit of Florida.

Maybe the one in California isn't as unappealing. There, at least you're in California and not Florida.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The worst is Magic Kingdom during the night show. It gets stupidly packed. It's the only time I've needed to move through a crowd but physically ran into them as if they were a wall. I had to get back to my family after using the bathroom but I basically had to beg people to make an opening. I think they thought I was trying to get a good spot without waiting.

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[–] brygphilomena 5 points 1 month ago

Growing up in southern California. Disneyland was common, and so common that I ended up working there. It's changed a lot in the last twenty years.

I still go to Disneyland regularly, but it's always because I know someone that can still get me and my family in. I'm fortunate that I haven't paid to go to Disneyland in over 16 years, and I've been hundreds of times. Now, I typically get disappointed when I'm there. I've seen the parks go downhill and the prices go way, way up.

I've been to Sea World growing up, since it was a two hour drive. And Lego Land. And Six Flags.

It's not the parks that are spoiled, it's the flights and hotels that make these things wild trips for spoiled kids.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

When I check ticket prices for my family of five, the cheapest option at Disney World is 1700 Euro. That's on the Disney website and does not include travel or lodging or food.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
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[–] partial_accumen 65 points 1 month ago (5 children)

What do you know now that makes you grateful?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Blue_Morpho 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

SeaWorld I understand but why Disney?

Is there a documentary about mouse abuse? Unlike SeaWorld, Disney World seems a large enough environment for a human sized mouse to thrive.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Ah, but you're forgetting, there's a population of 200 TNR cats at Disneyland! Oh wait, I'm not sure if DisneyWorld has cats too. In California, cats have been there longer than Sleeping Beauty's Castle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

There's a Clickhole video about it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Kids who go to those places end up clinically depressed later in life.

[–] Xeroxchasechase 17 points 1 month ago

Because they understand the exploitation involved in a giant corporation controlling all aspects of life for profit and the shallowness of detached and alienated entertainment?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kids ~~who go to those places~~ end up clinically depressed later in life.

FTFY

[–] ripcord 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

God damn Lemmy is full of sad sacks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

For real, it's the doomeriest.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

When i read extravagant trips, i expected to go to some Carribean Islands, or hiking in Nepal or something like that. Going to some Plastic corporate identity hellhole does not seem extravagant to me, although it is probably much more expensive in terms of Costs/Experience.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Going to a tropical island isn't extravagant, it's just expensive. Extravagant is spending a lot of money on something that isn't worth it, like Disney World.

[–] Crackhappy 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

2 weeks on Bali for 2 cost grand total $3,400, including everything. And we were splurging. That's far less than 2 weeks at Disneyland. That is absolutely ridiculous to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And I assume you stayed at a nice hotel. There's absolutely cheaper tropical destinations and alternatives to nice hotels if you just want the tropical beach life. We spent far less than 3k during 1 month in Thailand.

[–] Crackhappy 2 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. Just wonderful little inns with gorgeous views. Locally owned places of course.

[–] Maggoty 13 points 1 month ago

Seriously, my wife and I road tripped Scotland for the price of a Disney vacation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Funny how it's all about perspective. For me, going to a Caribbean island was a short flight away. Extravagant meant going to Europe for 2 weeks. Also Disney World

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I was growing up, I had some family in LA & San Diego. One year when we visited them we ended up going to both Disneyland and SeaWorld. This was the late '80s or very early '90s and not a huge deal, I think it was just something to do to keep us kids busy. I know Disneyland isn't "the" Disney that everyone talks about so maybe I'm missing something but Disneyland was sorta underwhelming. I wasn't huge into Disney stuff anyway but I remember being kind of bored.

When we visited in 1997 we went to Universal Studios Hollywood. They had an attraction where you could get photographed in front of a blue screen and edited into a scene from Star Trek - they had uniforms and props and everything. I loved TNG and was so stoked to wear a command uniform and hold a tricorder. My uncle Ira was appalled that I chose TNG over TOS...I can still hear him saying "but that's not real Star Trek!"

[–] thedirtyknapkin 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

when it comes to genuinely unique technology based experiences like that, there's nothing that beats Disney world. Disney Land is really nothing like it. Disney Land is mostly a regular theme park, not that much different than a six flags. Disney world has the most money and research put into it of any physical attraction in the world. that shit has probably had more money dumped into it than the Roman collosseum in its time. the things thet have there now feel like actual magic. they have 3d hologram systems, the have lightsabers that extend and look exactly like the movies, they have the same level of robot as what Tesla used to announce the cybertaxi just running around the park all the time. I've never been, but they have the most unbelievable entertainment technology there. i can see how a child would walk away feeling like they experienced something special.

[–] TheRealKuni 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The extending lightsabers were for the star cruiser thing, and they don’t do that anymore. But maybe they’ve moved them into the park proper.

But yeah, Disney World is a pretty amazing experience.

[–] thedirtyknapkin 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

for that to be a temporary exhibit is almost crazier. that thing i dreamed of having as a child isn't even worth keeping around when compared to everything else they've got going on.

[–] TheRealKuni 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, “Starcruiser” was a massive flop. Far too expensive, underwhelming experience, terrible execution. Jenny Nicholson has a surprisingly compelling four hour review of it that covers part of why it flopped. Worth a watch.

Also, the extendable lightsaber is pretty fragile. Only really able to be used for the extending and maybe a bit of swinging it around. Essentially it’s like two half-cylindrical measuring tapes with an end cap that extend together, with an LED strip inside. You can’t hit another blade with it. So when they had lightsaber fights the actors had to quickly swap from the extendable lightsaber to the fighting lightsaber out of view, like crouching to run and swapping behind a railing or something.

[–] thedirtyknapkin 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

huh, i guess I hadn't heard anyone's actual experience from it. I've never been myself. it's only interesting enough for me to want to know that it exists. there is no world in which I would actually pay what it costs to go to Disney world. it's just not my thing. I'd rather find some elk to watch frolic or some shit. that sounds when more magical. still neat to see that it's kind of real now.

but yeah, my biases make it easy to believe that it's all cheaper and shittier than they lead on. that sounds like what a company like Disney would do. make something that looks flashy and makes a good headline, but disappoints when in person.

thank you for sharing your experiences.

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[–] RBWells 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are a 2 hour drive from us so not extravagant trips. But I am so grateful to my mom for taking my kids with her when she traveled to Europe. Even though she never did anything like that with us, she would invite her grandkids one or two at a time to wherever she was going and her rules were "one bag, you carry it, no whining". They got to see places I haven't yet. Very extravagant and I wish she'd taken her own kids on trips like that!

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 10 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, I'm not saying my parents were good parents. They would never consider a trip like this for me or my sister. I'm just saying I'm actually glad they didnt.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We have season passes that give us access to all Cedar Fair parks with unlimited meals and drinks, unlimited visits all year long, and it still costs less than one trip to Disney. We often visit 7 different parks in a year, and our home park dozens of times.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Free meals a whole season? Why not just move next to it and never have to worry about cooking ever again?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

We're 7 minutes away, and we do go often just for a meal.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Honestly the kids who get spoiled grow up to be not so nice adults. They want everything to be spoonfed.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 17 points 1 month ago

It's been a long time, but I was in a dance troupe as a kid and we performed at Disney World in the late 90's. I'm not sure if they still do it, but when you traveled to perform there, they put your troupe name and the members' names in the park program for the day.

My mom and I took the tram back to the park at dusk every night we were there to get a milkshake and watch the fireworks. TBH, those were some pretty neat experiences.

DW was a neat place before it got enshittified.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Is it the murders? Its the murders.

[–] detective__mcnulty 5 points 1 month ago

Been a few times. You're not missing much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

what do you mean? like the blackfish documentary?

[–] ripcord 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Extravagant?

This should be considered absolutely middle-of-the-road.

[–] Th3D3k0y 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look at Mr Privileged over here

[–] ripcord 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I'm not saying IS. I'm saying Should. Most people SHOULD be part of the middle class and able to do these regularly.

Extravagant should be like renting a private beach or extensive ballroom for a party or something.

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