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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I was hanging with a group consisting of mostly older millennial gay men who don't like that trans people are being included alongside them in conversations about human rights, sexuality, and gender. They think it takes away from the fight their community has gone through over the past few generations.

I chewed them out. Like, a lot. I am usually not at all confrontational but I pretty much stunned them into silence. Now I'm waiting to let them process, expecting a couple to reach out to me to step back from some of the shit they were saying. If that doesn't happen, I guess I'm not really welcome in that group anymore and I'm ok with that.

There are no trans people in this group. I'm not a gay man nor am I trans. But when I hear shit like that, I hear echos of gay men activists not being willing to work with lesbian women activists, white feminists not includig black women, male laborers trying to keep women out of labor rights movements. It's stupid. It's tribal and hateful. It undercuts the strength the movement could have if we weren't asshats about it.

Rights campaigning 101, strength in unity. This is basic ass shit.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Hell yeah. Concern silos divide the people.

Trans rights are human rights

Women's rights are human rights

Workers rights are human rights.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I do agree that unity is the way to go in the fight for rights, I can understand why one would want to separate the T from the LGB. It's an issue of consistency - L, G, and B all describe sexuality, while T describes gender. The two are related, but ultimately separate concepts - one does not inform the other, and grouping them can hypothetically lead ignorant people to think that they are directly related, which could hypothetically lead to non-straight cisfolk experiencing more oppression than they would have otherwise experienced due to the perceived association with transfolk, as non-conforming sexuality is more generally accepted today than non-conforming gender.

That being said, it's all hypothetical, and what matters is the reality that people from all spectra of nonconformity are regularly oppressed, and in many places, the oppressors treat anyone LGBT+ with the same disdain. So grouping them is vital for the sake of the most oppressed.

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[–] Chainweasel 41 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If it were supposed to be pronounced "jif" it would have been spelled that way.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The creator of the format is documented as having confirmed the pronunciation is "jif", but I don't care. Once he created it and put it into the world, he relinquished his control.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is a jem of a response, but by jeneralizing pronunciations of acronyms only by the way they are spelt, you are opening a jigantic can of worms on etymology and linguistics.

The jist of it is that English is a weird language, jenerally descriptive, and there can be many correct answers to the same pronunciation problem.

As for me? I'm a choosy developer, and I choose jif.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Laser is an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation, and yet we all pronounce it β€œlay-Zer” not β€œlay-Ser”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

The A in amplification and E in emission are pronounced differently too, so the "correct" pronunciation would be "lah-seer".

[–] derekabutton 8 points 1 month ago (9 children)

So how do you pronounce giraffe?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] derekabutton 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah and it's giraffe, not jiraffe. See how that gets us nowhere?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jood gob indeed (just kidding, no malice intended)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How do you pronounce github? GIMP? GNU? GPU? Javascript?

Oh Geremy, it's time to jo to the jocery store! We need some jrape gelly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Geoff is a gentle German giant with ginger hair. He's also a germaphobe, though generally he's still a genuine gentleman. You get the gist.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

GIF is an acronym. Giraffe is not. The Giraffe response has been debunked for decades.

Graphical is a hard G.

[–] derekabutton 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Debunked? Its a counterpoint to the fact that it's pronounced that way because it's spelled with a g. If that poor argument wasn't used, the giraffe one wouldn't have to come up. It's not evidence of anything other than that letters can be pronounced in more than one way.

For the graphical thing, imagine pronouncing NASA wrong because of the way aeronautical is pronounce. Or underwater in scuba. World in WHO? The I in AIDS isn't pronounced anything like immunodeficiency.

Your argument doesn't work either.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thank you for providing me all new ways to pronounce things in horribly cursed ways, magic internet man.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pedophiles aren't the problem.

Rapists are the problem.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just a fact. A pedophile who never acts on it is just some guy.

[–] tomi000 21 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

just wish people understood the difference between a paraphilia and a crime.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Saying that my favorite cli editor is nano

[–] spittingimage 10 points 1 month ago

The only CLI editors I've used are VI and Nano. So my favourite CLI editor is Nano too.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In a discussion about whether liking trans women is gay or not I said that they are all missing the point. Even if it was the gayest thing on earth, being gay should never be this big of a deal. And it just shows how hard it is for some to overcome the stigma of being gay, even if they are super tolerant in general.

That started a group discussion with a lot of different opinions on that matter.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] TehBamski 7 points 1 month ago

This is one of those coders' beefs, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Marxism is correct and more relevant than ever.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

School is where the passion for learning goes to die and the desire to cheat is born

In this day and age, hobbies are the last bastions of passion and curiosity. One who is engaged in a hobby is intrinsically motivated to learn and apply what has been learned in novel ways, just as the scholars of old have done. School, reviled by many a student, has earned its reputation by perverting the concept of learning and exploiting students' passions. The desire to cheat is most unnatural among students, a telltale sign that one's passion and curiosity for the topic at hand has been extinguished, replaced with a desire to rid oneself of a burden, the burden of learning only for the sake of becoming learned.

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[–] hogmomma 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The American public school system as it currently exists is largely a joke.

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[–] TriflingToad 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For Lemmy specifically, I don't think police need to be abolished.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Stuck a wire in a power outlet.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People should be free to vote for those who best represent them, secure in the knowledge their vote will still be counted against those they don't want in office.

[–] hperrin 10 points 1 month ago

That only works with non-first past the post voting systems.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

People considered woke often only focus on institutional racism and make every other form of racism seem unimportant, including those targeting so called "whites" / Europeans. (And I'm not trying to victimize perpetrators here, I'm aware of the current and historical situation in Western countries.)

I see that institutional racism is a huge problem, especially in the West, but that doesn't make any other form less important or significant.

For comparison: just because in sub-saharan Africa people starve on a daily basis due to extreme poverty caused by Imperialism doesn't mean that poverty inside industrial nations with less harsh effects is less of a problem, especially to the individual.

[–] tamal3 10 points 1 month ago

Telling 8th grade content teachers that they must modify their assignments to accommodate migrant students and English learners, and that just directly translating those documents forever wasn't going to cut it. Gosh there was a lot of grumbling in the room.

I get it, we're short staffed and overwhelmed, but it doesn't make it go away.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Probably "we should eliminate cars as personal transportation"

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[–] 2ugly2live 7 points 1 month ago

Told my friend that she was being a terf when she started saying terf shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Ever?

The SNES is better than the Genesis.

Screw you, Douglas, I was right!

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