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Former Alaska Airlines pilot who tried to shut down engines in-flight shares his story (abcnews.go.com)
submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/news
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[–] Vector 65 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Save you a click:

Joe Emerson had been struggling over the death of his best friend, Scott, a pilot who died while on a run six years earlier. Emerson had been away for the weekend with friends, celebrating and remembering Scott.

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On Friday night, the group took psychedelic mushrooms – a drug that can make you hallucinate and typically has effects that last a few hours. Emerson said that for him, the physical side effects lasted days, and the consequences a lifetime.

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"There are two red handles in front of my face," Emerson recalled. "And thinking that I was going to wake up, thinking this is my way to get out of this non-real reality, I reached up and I grabbed them, and I pulled the levers."

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit. Buuuuuulllllshhhhhiiiiittttt

I love shrooms. They don’t last for days. That motherfucker just fucked up on the job. Probably due to lack of sleep from all that partying. That whole “inception” nonsense is a liiieeeee

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He wasn’t on the job though.

He was flying home in the jump seat and reached past the pilot and copilot.

Mental health issue, not on the job performance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Regardless. Not the fault of drugs.

[–] givesomefucks 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They said he was on mushrooms the day it happened too

[–] miseducator 17 points 2 months ago

Yeah, he kept the party going for sure. Good lord, I absolutely hate being on an airplane sober, but I have never thought "damn, if I was only hallucinating on psilocybin, this would be more pleasant."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IIRC they also said he'd stayed up for something like 48 hours straight before the flight. Mushrooms aren't the type of drug where you can just take more to keep things going. Your body needs like a week to recover before they really work again.

[–] 11111one11111 2 points 2 months ago

So many people don't know ot understand this. Ive seen so much money wasted on shrooms from people trying to "extend" their trip. Whatever you initially take is what you'll get out of the trip. Everything after is wasted and pissed out. Idk the biology of it I just know from tons of experience taking them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Intrusive thought, everyone has those, humans are squishy this isn't surprisingly. But blaming it on machine elves, bro, that's not cool...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Mentour has a great video on this incident as well:
https://youtu.be/988j2-4CdgM

[–] TheRealKuni 2 points 2 months ago

One of the best channels on YouTube.

[–] General_Shenanigans 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Psychedelics can trigger psychotic episodes in some people, especially if they have pre-existing psychotic tendencies. Unfortunately, they’re not for everybody, mainly for this reason. My theory is that they may be making it sound like the mushrooms lasted longer than they normally do in hopes of potentially saving his future piloting career. I don’t think it will work, but I think that’s the motive behind their narrative. Admitting that you’re prone to psychotic tendencies will ensure that license never gets reinstated. Pilots tend to hide things like this. They love flying and losing that ability is losing the love of your life and your livelihood.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is the difference between "the effect of the mushrooms lasted several days" and "the mushrooms triggered a psychotic episode that lasted several days" any more than phrasing? The man has not shown a tendency to psychotic episodes at any time other than this one time he did mushrooms.

[–] General_Shenanigans 1 points 2 months ago

Sure. I mean, if I die from blood loss, I don’t say a knife wasn’t involved because I died 15 minutes from the time I was stabbed. Just like with the knife, the drug was no longer actively acting on his brain (unless he lied about when he took it), but he was still feeling the effect of it, technically. For most people, this after effect is pleasant and gives one more of a sense of being present and connected.

There’s nuance, here, though. Here’s another exaggerated analogy: If a majority of people can eat peanuts, but you’re allergic and somebody gave you some and you ate them, what killed you? Was it the peanuts, the allergy, the person that gave them to you, or was it yourself?