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Unfortunately, the film hasn’t exactly been accepted with open arms, with some members of the original movie even speaking out against it, which came as a surprise to producer Molly Hassell.

β€œIt should make people proud,” Hassell told THR. β€œI’m surprised it hasn’t made the original filmmakers more proud, because it’s a step in a different direction, but it’s a necessary step to deal with the age-old themes of love and loss.β€œ

This is the only bit of new news. The article then digs up older comments from the original film's director Alex Proyas and another screenwriter both being critical of this new version.

I'm willing to give the new version a chance but the way these articles are worded, it feels like they're willing the new version to fail regardless. I have a gut feeling this film won't do very well and then hit streaming services quite quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (2 children)

uhg just no. the chance this movie has anything to say, and a good way to say it is practically zero. numerous writers and directors, years in the making. no one has vision of something interesting here... this is a cash grab using the original as a springboard.

gross, and not in a good way.

ill watch it, and i will be very critical. the original is an iconic piece of artwork oozing its source material. i cant imagine this will be worth the download.

[–] Yawweee877h444 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

100% agree about being critical.

But I'm still gonna watch it and have high expectations AND be optimistic because of skarsgard and FKA twigs. Which if it's bad, will make the disappointment even worse.

[–] MeatPilot 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I agree with both of you except about watching it. I'm not going to watch any of it.

The original was a period piece, playing on culture and attitudes of the time. Not that everything is different, it's just what was is not what is.

So that means they are going to force it to fit. It's going to be painful, it's going to be awkward. Also I'd need that younger angst I had then to enjoy it.

If I want a reboot that hits the same, I'll need a time machine for my perspective and something appropriate for now culturally.

[–] ThunderWhiskers 6 points 3 months ago

I would love for it to be good but between this, the trailers, and the feeling that the character is deeply rooted in 90s grunge rock, I just can't imagine this living up to the original.

Skarsgard is amazing, but I don't know if this is going to work out.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can't wait for us to finish remaking every film, so we can start remaking the remakes. Fucking write a new movie, bunch of actual hacks

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Freaky Friday (2018) is a remake of Freaky Friday (2003) which was a remake of Freaky Friday (1976) which was an adaptation of the book Freaky Friday (1972).

Thankfully though Freaky Friday (2018) is no longer canon as Freakier Friday (2025) is a sequel to Freaky Friday (2003).

Oh and don't forget about Disney's Freak Friday (1995) which was made for TV and premiered on ABC.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl 8 points 3 months ago

Oh god I hate it πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Hollywood has been profiting off of remakes basically from the very beginning. Here's a short list of some of the most popular. And before movies, you might be shocked to learn that stage performers regularly "remade" productions originally performed by other groups. Anyone performing Hamlet or that Scottish play after The Globe burned downed is a fucking hack apparently.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

This list has Blade Runner 2049 listed as a remake??? Did I miss something when I watched it??

[–] warbond 3 points 3 months ago

I found out recently that Anyone But You was just a remake of Much Ado About Nothing, which I mean... Is there anything Will Shakespeare hasn't touched!?

[–] rayquetzalcoatl 1 points 3 months ago

Nah man, I don't have an issue with doing other people's plays etc, same way as I don't have an issue with cover bands :)

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 28 points 3 months ago

It looks like Jared Leto's reimagination of The Crow.

Why can't people come up with original ideas?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I was 100% unaware this was days from launching. I've seen no advertisements or trailers. The fact that they aren't marketing this should say enough.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm kinda confused. Why do so many people (including this article) treat this as a reboot of the first movie, when the creatives have said that it's another adaptation of the original graphic novel? And why is everyone suddenly so protective of the legacy of Brandon Lee, when there's already been a direct sequel to his movie and a separate TV series?

[–] janonymous 8 points 3 months ago

I think there is enough precedence to come to the belief that remakes are bad in and of itself. Big movie companies do like to put their money in already established or at least known franchises or names. This leads to them forcing a movie they think should make money rather than letting the creatives follow their passion, which may or may not lead to better movies. And then there is also the typical knee-jerk online reaction in play here. People like to be dismissive and jaded about things. I think it's partly because we have a lot of reasons to be jaded, but it's also because it's easy and it makes you feel smarter. I believe in most cases people aren't actually informed enough to form a real opinion, they just like to shit on things online to make themselves feel better.

In my late teens and early twenties I had a phase where I basically disliked every new movie. I thought old movies where perfect and new movies where all just cash grabs with the exception of indie movies. After a bit of growing and working in a creative industry myself, I now know that this is bullshit. There are lots of reasons why movies turn out bad, but in most cases the people working on them are trying their best and genuinely want to make something great. With that in mind I've become much more open and appreciative. It's so easy to shit on things online. It is very, very hard to make a movie, even a bad one.

Sure, sometimes the movie turns out bad and yes the chances of a reboot, remake, sequel or prequel to be bad is higher. But it might also turn out to be a great movie in it's own right! To be honest lots of old movies did not age well and could use a remake. If you don't like it, the original movie is still there for you to watch instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i think largely because it's called 'the crow' rather than 'the crow: straight to video' or similar colon title. none of the sequels or spinoffs or whatever they were affected the cult following of the original film/books because nobody gave a shit if they'd even heard of them in the first place, curiosities at best. this one has some real money/clout behind it and is consequentially more disruptive

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I guess you're right. Although I've never heard the TV series to be referred by its full title, it has decent reviews (and it was my first introduction to the character).

[–] sartalon 7 points 3 months ago

This guy really is a fucking moron.

[–] thesohoriots 7 points 3 months ago

β€œWhy don’t they like it when we dig up Brandon Lee and take a shit in his mouth?” /s

[–] VelvetStorm 5 points 3 months ago

Can't they just write a new fucking movie? Does every god dam movie coming out need to be a remake or reboot or a movie based on a book or TV show?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if you remade a clockwork orange with alex as a fan of my chemical romance instead of beethoven nobody would be convinced by your 'it's a new interpretation of the book' defence either

that said i read somewhere that the trailer music isn't the same as the actual soundtrack. so maybe it mightn't be that bad. but he still looks like an emo twink joker

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

So Jared Leto's joker

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Well guys, as this article states, it looks like Borderlands all over again. It'll probably be on streaming by the end of the week! 😜

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

His haircut bugs me