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[–] FlyingSquid 137 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sadly, there are a bunch of Nazi punk bands.

Hence the song Nazi Punks Fuck Off by the Dead Kennedys.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure you're not wrong, but the song was written for concert goers, not fellow bands. Jello noticed some far right members of the audience and he was not having it.

I can't really think of any halfway successful right wing punk acts. I guess I wouldn't trust GG Allin not to vote for Trump.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)
  • Smut Peddlars
  • The Misfits
  • Sex Pistols
  • Ramones

All display right wing politics and achieved fame. The overall punk scene, yeah, is overwhelmingly leftist, which from my perspective is right and good, but we do need to be honest about the fact that Nazi punks both exist AND can fuck off

[–] nyctre 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aside from smut peddlars, haven't all of those mostly achieved fame first and then revealed to be right wingers? Not super familiar with the scene so I may be wrong.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I guess you're also a different person when you're younger than 25 and playing in a punk band with no money, compared to a few years later when you cash in on old glory and gradually develop into more of an old fart with every passing day.

You grow up and you calm down and workin' for the clampdown.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 4 months ago

I think Johnny Rotten just lost his marbles as he got older. Live a long life of saying unfiltered controversial statements and you'll wake up one day just being an old conservative fart. But at that point he's hardly a representative of the punk movement.

As for Johnny Ramone... Yeah, point well taken. Still, one could argue it's at least a different ballpark than the America first Kid Rock lunatics, but it's meager comfort.

The Misfits and the Smut Peddlars I don't know well enough to comment on.

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 4 months ago

"a bunch" is probably overselling. i would say it is possible to find nazi punk bands

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 94 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Punks be like: "NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!!!"

[–] disguy_ovahea 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah, punks. Those famously establishment-loving scamps.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

They love the cops!

/s

[–] flux 68 points 4 months ago

God. I miss the days of these requests and bridge burning as a young punk. "Oh you don't want us to mention x y z" First song talk about whatever weird thing they don't want you to. "Oh you don't want us to swear?" First song getting the crowd to chat give me a f.u.c.k. "Oh we need to turn it down?" Crank it on the second song. We are young and angry and we were never expecting to get paid this all means nothing to us. Side note. Always be nice to the staff and sound person they are just doing their bullshit jobs.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 67 points 4 months ago
[–] snekerpimp 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A guy with a mohawk on stage streaming about how you need to conform to the establishment and listen to the man?

[–] TexasDrunk 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nah, they want racist skinhead punks. Back when I was in the scene (I know, shut up grandpa) they were around. They got kicked out of pretty much every place we played because they were fucking shitbags repping the aryan nation bullshit and no one wanted to be around them. So they'd have their own Nazi bars and shitty venues to play. One group I knew played for a lot of events at a local racist biker gang clubhouse.

They may not be skinheads anymore, but the type still exists. Biker gangs (not motorcycle clubs as a whole, the specific subculture which makes up a very tiny percent of both riders and clubs) are very anti-establishment and many of them are at least racially exclusive, with many more leaning into outright hate crimes.

[–] JustZ 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"One percenters" is the term for the criminal motor cycle clubs. They are despicable, anti American pieces of shit.

[–] TexasDrunk 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, I wasn't sure how many people knew that so I was trying to invoke a specific image.

You're right. They are absolute pieces of shit, and there are groups that cosplay it as well. I ride (solo, not into MCs in general) and run into 1%ers sometimes. I run into the wannabes more often, who are also slightly different kinds of pieces of shit and in a lot of cases are more dangerous to individuals because they're trying really hard to be taken seriously.

Most MCs are pretty neutral and just like to ride. Some are quite lovely (BACA generally, and some of the ones who do a bunch of charity stuff) and a bunch are slightly shitty have some backwards ass attitudes.

The MC I was talking about is into organized crime (mostly meth and gun running) and white power.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I have known exactly one MC that tried to be inclusive of LGBTQ+ people, women, and non-white people. They ended up being forced to be a supporter MC for the dominant MC of the area--you do this if you don't want to have 'unfortunate incidents' happen to you--and ended up not being allowed to have women and black/Latino people in their club. They disbanded following the death of one of their founding members.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My first thought was that most punk bands view "liberal" as an insult, but that's probably not what they mean...

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 16 points 4 months ago

No this guy definitely meant he wanted some mouth breathers.

[–] captainlezbian 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not hard. Plenty of punks are commies, most are anarchists or anarchy adjacent

[–] bitchkat 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, there are nazi punk bands as well.

[–] Bourff 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah but nazi punks fuck off!

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So that's the issue right there, liberal can be used for both sides of the political spectrum

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

No it can't. It refers to centrists. If you're a Nazi, it refers to people left of you. If you're an anarchist, it refers to people right of you. It's the same group.

[–] nforminvasion 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah but unfortunately this person is probably using the Americanized version of liberal.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 months ago

Oh boy, it's the Peach Pits, with their hit songs "Arrest the Rioters", "Corporations are people too", "Fuck the Disabled", "Outsource for efficiency", and "One Bathroom One Gender"!

How come they're not more popular!?

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"hi we're a quintet of vegan anarchist transbians, fuck the liberals!"

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[–] MeatPilot 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I got something to say
I saved a baby today
And it doesn't matter much to me as long as it's not on welfare

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 18 points 4 months ago

I got something to say!

Your mother consented today!

And it doesn't matter much to me! As long as she enjoyed herself and had a pleasurable time!

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Seeking water that isn't wet"

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

90% of punks are not liberals. In fact, the UK punk scene in the 70s arose as a reaction to Thatcher's neoliberalism. Punks hate liberals.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago

Nazi punks are the ultimate oxymoron. How the fuck can you be anti establishment and still support systemic evil?

[–] 9point6 14 points 4 months ago
[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 4 months ago

I’m sure you can find some Maoist/Trotskyist punks if that’s what you want

[–] Sparkles@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Curious about how the comments went on this one.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They're absolutely hilarious.

[–] mumblerfish 11 points 4 months ago (8 children)

The hell is a liberal punk band?

[–] NeptuneOrbit 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The moron means "is conservative". You'd think a punk band would either be very far right or very far left, and so, one would hope the person would know a centrist/liberal/neoliberal punk band would be a little bit are.....

[–] captainlezbian 9 points 4 months ago

Probably someone like the Sex Pistols who wound up tories

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[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The commies have got me, I was trying to figure out if there are any commie punks.

Like as their own ideals, not just born in a communist country

[–] captainlezbian 6 points 4 months ago

A ton. Laura Jane Grace is one off the top of my head, for a very different style recommendation Pat the Bunny routinely incorporated communist ideas into his folk punk. Both are anarchists and not in the more authcom tradition, but it’s punk you aren’t gonna get songs celebrating the holodomor nearly as much as ones praising the makhnovists

[–] lulztard@feddit.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] BonesOfTheMoon 7 points 4 months ago

Nope but the group has made fun of him all week now and it's hilarious.

[–] RizzRustbolt 1 points 4 months ago

They probably mean right-of-center liberal.

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