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Who do think will be VP? (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by Godric to c/politicalmemes

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Shapiro is an attorney. Yawn.
Kelly is an engineer at heart, and a highly praised, disciplined, and decorated one at that.

Consider me biased as an engineer myself, but considering Harris is already an attorney, having a greater diversity of specialization at the top will go a long ways towards the functionality of their administration.

And, honestly, we're in an optics war at this point. Kelly is the pick for optics. They don't let just anyone become astronauts, he has a PR presence nationally that predates this election, and he can lean a lot on his honorable Air Force career to boot.

Also, when I hear the last name "Shapiro" the only cunt I can think of is Ben...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Politics aside, building a ticket with these two is like minmaxxing a RimWorld squad

[–] bi_tux 4 points 4 months ago

I don't know anything about US politics, but I like the engineer guy too

[–] lennybird 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If this was intended to make Shapiro look good, this proves the point on Kelly in a way.

For my low-info battleground state uncle, all I need to say is, "Kelly is an astronaut and navy fighter pilot. He's a moderate" that's it.

Shapiro brings charisma but my uncle won't actually see that charisma ever anyway. I have no one-sentence bite-sized argument for him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah this is the real problem. Anyone who is somehow undecided after 4 years of Trump is gonna need to be convinced in a single sentence with small words or it's gonna go right over their head.

[–] Wilzax 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kelly would be cool as fuck.

Shapiro would make me feel better about this election.

I think Kamala will choose one of these two and have a pretty good chance of winning either way, so I don't really care.

[+] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] halcyoncmdr 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"But Astronaut" is a pretty damned high bar in many people's views, in large part because of the stringent qualifications. They're also the very few that actually get to experience the Overview Effect.

[+] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] partial_accumen 8 points 4 months ago

I get all that but like…being an astronaut doesn’t just overwhelm all other considerations lol

Gabby Giffords as Second Lady would be a great addition that comes included with a Kelly pick.

[–] halcyoncmdr 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're right, but it's also not the only non-traditional qualifier though. For many people the fact that the Second Lady would be Gabby Giffords is also a consideration. Between the two of them, they've been on a national stage for a long time.

For many people, this Is one of the first times they're really hearing about Shapiro, and the fact there's a dipshit on the MAGA side with the same last name, well that just complicates average voter perception. Name recognition and differentiation is massive for the voters that don't follow politics constantly.

[–] Passerby6497 1 points 4 months ago

“But Astronaut” is a pretty damned high bar in many people’s views, in large part because of the stringent qualifications.

And then you have stuff like this.

[–] expatriado 11 points 4 months ago

Beshear: "hold my bourbon balls"

[–] Korne127 10 points 4 months ago

What about Beshear?

[–] Stovetop 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Shapiro.

Nothing against Kelly, and nothing against the state of Pennsylvania, but I'd rather free up a Democrat-held governorship of a single state than a Democrat-held senator seat in congress, which is already at razor thin margins.

Both Arizona and Pennsylvania are swing states, so I can only consider which option I'd be least thrilled to see a Republican fill the vacancy since there would be a good chance of that happening in either situation.

[–] halcyoncmdr 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Arizona Senate seat would be filled by the Governor for the remainder of the current session. The current governor is a Democrat, but even if she was not, AZ law requires the appointment to be from the same party.

The seat has no chance of changing hands until the next regular election either way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kelly being VP would actually trigger a special election in 2026.

[–] halcyoncmdr 5 points 4 months ago

Kelly's seat is up for reelection in 2026 regardless. He was elected in 2020 and Senate seats are 6 year terms.

[–] littlebluespark 2 points 4 months ago

Wary*

[–] ikidd 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm just going to leave this here.

[–] Godric 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That is indeed part of the calculations!

[–] ikidd 1 points 4 months ago

Well, they have 39,000 dead Palestinians to assuage their bloodlust, with a few tens of thousands more to come from starvation. Forgive me if I don't immediately cast my thoughts to the plight of poor, downtrodden AIPAC. The last thing the Israeli lobby needs is more influence in the Executive branch.

[–] blazera -3 points 4 months ago

Theyre both pretty awful