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“I don't care how, but you have to get out and vote,” Trump told the crowd at Turning Point Action’s Believer’s Summit. “Christians get out and vote. Just this time. You won't have to do it anymore.”

“In four more years, you know what? It’ll be fixed. It’ll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians,” Trump added during his 70-minute long speech. “We'll have it fixed so good. You're not going to have to vote.”

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[–] Xanthobilly 151 points 4 months ago (3 children)

When people tell you who they are, believe it. Trump is going all in on christofascist authoritarianism. There will be no American democracy if he wins. People really need to set aside minor differences, participate in volunteering for Democrat campaigns, and vote blue. This needs to be spread wide and far via social networks, and any attempts to minimize it should be met with forceful condemnation.

[–] XOXOX 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't care about Christians or Republicans. The deal is, he gets to be the center of attention and above the law. In exchange, he does whatever the Republicans want. He's too shallow, entitled and stupid to be passionate about anything except his image.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

The only reason he is running is to stay out of jail. He doesn't actually want to do any work.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I'm like 80% sure Trump doesn't want to end democracy. He just wants more attention, power, and to protect himself when he goes out after 4 years. He said what he said here not because democracy will be over, but because he can't serve another term as president anymore, and he literally doesn't care what happens after as long as he's setup well, so "christians don't have to vote anymore", since he'll not be involved anymore.

That said, the people he does favors for or listens to want to end it as much as possible.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No offense, but if you believe that, then your head is planted firmly in your butt.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you attribute more intelligence/planning behavior to Trump than he actually possesses. He's an individual solely driven by his personal gain, and there's not a lot to be gained for him by ending (the limited) democracy of the US, it's too hard and dangerous. He might give some favors to people that actually have this plan (as I already said), thus essentially "wanting" to end democracy because he gives people that want to end democracy favors so he gets what he wants, but I don't think that he actually cares about this goal at all.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 1 points 4 months ago

I think you attribute more intelligence/planning behavior to Trump than he actually possesses.

Stop right there. I attribute NO intelligence or planning behavior to trump. I now no longer harbor any doubts about the placement of your cranium in relation to your sphincter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

If he stopped talking after the first paragraph then there is room for interpretation. The second paragraph about having this things "fixed" makes it pretty clear what he means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I’m like 80% sure Trump doesn’t want to end democracy.

Hmm. Interesting idea. I'm sure the next sentence won't be completely consistent with Trump wanting to end democracy.

He just wants more attention, power, and to protect himself when he goes out after 4 years.

Oh.

[–] DevCat 62 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Saying the quiet part out loud again.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago

there really just isn't a quiet part anymore

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They know their base is too dumb to be bothered by it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Bothered? Their base wants it.

[–] BassTurd 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want someone to ask him point blank what he means by that. I'm sure he'll spin some lie, but I'm curious what he'd come up with.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

If he'd be smart, he'd say "we'll have done such a good job governing that almost everyone will be convinced and vote republican anyway, so Christians don't need to go out anymore"

[–] morphballganon 21 points 4 months ago

Too coherent

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 1 points 4 months ago

And then he gives everyone free ponies that fart rainbows.

[–] Beryl 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This dumbass has made enough career ending faux-pas and declarations as to disgrace a dozen or so Congresses worth of politicians, and yet here we are. The desensitization is complete, he can just flatly announce his intention of ending democracy in the middle of an incoherent tirade, and people will cheer.

It really helps understanding how past autocrats got into power.

[–] Pilferjinx 2 points 4 months ago

We humans are dumb, especially angry humans.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. There’s a chance Trump just wants to be president and once he’s term limited he doesn’t care anymore….

But the cynic in me says he wants to be a dictator

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He's outright saying he's going to "fix" them "needing" to vote. One way or another, he definitely wants to not let someone take office after him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look, some part of me is still hoping Trump has a real “come to god” moment in which he realizes that he really needs to take responsibility for what he’s done. I’ve never hoped that Trump had a disastrous presidency, but I was always prepared for it.

And quite honestly, I’m not sure Trump /wants/ to be president so much as he does wants “immunity” for his crimes and he realizes he can become filthy rich abusing his power. I don’t think he wants any of the real responsibility

[–] dhork 15 points 4 months ago

If Trump ever has "come to God" moment, it will be to try and fire Him for getting the attention Trump feels he deserves.

[–] EmpathicVagrant 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Could the cynic in you be simply remembering the time he said he’d be a dictator for ‘only the first day’ or something to that effect?

[–] xantoxis 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He said "on day one". That doesn't mean ONLY one day, that means it will start immediately.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 0 points 4 months ago

It means that day one he's a dictator. Day two, project 2025 is enacted, and he's not a dictator anymore, he's an emperor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Honestly, I can’t remember if he said that. He’s done and said so many terrible things that it all melds together for me.

[–] xantoxis 16 points 4 months ago

The way I see it, they think Trump "won" in 2020 so they don't even have to vote right now. Your work here is done, Christians, take a nice vacation on election day.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago
[–] frog_brawler 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

People on the left, please get a rifle, and learn how to use it…

Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. We’ve got political violence on the horizon regardless of the outcome of the election.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People are taking this as an authoritarianism warning sign--that he'll end democracy--but that's the baby version of events. How do we know he doesn't plan to just end the world by starting WW3? Or by executing everyone he doesn't like (e.g. evangelical Christians who he has said in private to many people that he can't stand them)?

He says he only needs to be a dictator for one day. There's only so much you can do in one day. Starting WW3 by sending out the nukes is one of those things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Big gov will choose for them after that.