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[–] [email protected] 135 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look at what you get when you try to appease Republicans by appointing a federalist society judge to be AG in exchange for 0 Republican votes.

[–] Vorticity 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wait, Garland is Federalist Society? That explains so much!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (3 children)

He is not. If he were, why would the republicans have stonewalled his nomination for Supreme Court Justice? It doesn't make sense.

He has participated in some events, like debates, with the federalist society, but he is not a member.

Do all the research in the world and you will not find any connection there.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

They stonewalled him because they were determined to block anyone Obama nominated. He put up a milquetoast right leaning centrist as an act of conciliation. They didn't give a shit. They would have blocked anyone Obama nominated.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The GOP have stonewalled bills THEY WROTE once they realized Democrats wanted to pass it. They obstructed a border bill beyond their wildest dreams because it was under Biden. That question isn't really a mystery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

This isn't a bill and this wasn't 2024. Mitch McConnell was responsible for stonewalling Garland's appointment to the supreme court. Trump was responsible for killing the bill. Trump is an idiot, McConnell is just evil. They don't play the same way at all. They almost certainly would have passed that legislation if Trump hadn't interfered.

It was a lifetime appointment to the most powerful position in the country, assuming you have a like-minded majority. If he were a federalist, it would have been a gift to them on a silver platter.

We're dealing with counterfactuals here, but attributing their increasingly irrational behavior today to all their actions in the past is a terrible way to interpret history.

[–] Vorticity 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. I guess is was being a little credulous when I read that.

[–] Passerby6497 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

No you weren't, their argument is specious at best.

why would the republicans have stonewalled his nomination for Supreme Court Justice? It doesn't make sense.

Republicans blocked their own bills, and bills they dropped over because the Democrats supported it.

Republicans have no morals, ethics or values outside of power, so assuming they wouldn't vote against the exact shit they want out of spite just means you're not paying attention enough.

E: the federalist part is correct tho, he's not one of them afaik.

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[–] RestrictedAccount 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Except that it’s not true

[–] Vorticity 4 points 4 months ago

Thanks. I guess is was being a little credulous when I read that.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I'm increasingly convinced that the corporate/authoritarian movement in the US will not be overcome until heads literally roll. I'm not endorsing this. But I don't see another way forward when we have elites who are immune from any sort of ethics guidelines or having to meet the needs of constituencies.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No worries, I'll endorse it

[–] whostosay 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

lol, I think this should happen but I won't endorse it. Why the fuck do you think this keeps going? Second and hopefully 400millionth endorsement.

[–] nolannice 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I like rolling coal, rolling coal barons' heads!

[–] TheBat 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Violence isn't the answer.

It is a question and the answer is: yes.

[–] MantisTobogganMD 4 points 4 months ago

run the jewels is the answer. the q is what’s poppin?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look through history and tell me the last time anything else has defeated fascism. The event horizon is behind us.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Fascism is an ideology of violence and genocide. It only understands violence.

[–] FenrirIII 4 points 4 months ago

That's why we're making presidents kings now. Gotta work up to that french-style revolution

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 66 points 4 months ago

I think everyone has sufficient evidence to arrest Clarence Thomas. I’m not even a lawyer and I think I could get a conviction on tax fraud for the tour bus loan that got forgiven.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Overall, despite a handful of good calls, Garland has been a catastrophically huge disappointment in the scope of trying to shore up our defenses against fascism. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that his nomination to AG is amongst one of Biden’s worst appointment decisions.

[–] MegaUltraChicken 4 points 4 months ago

I would agree. Biden has had some really solid appointments overall (Love me some Lina Khan), but Garland has just not gotten the job done.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago

Even when they can go for the removal of fascist enablers through legal means they refuse to. God damn it.

[–] hark 46 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Garland is the weak-ass supreme court pick that was a result of "reaching across the aisle". I'm not sure why he was given the AG role, but democrats should pick people actually willing to fight for us. Democrats positioned themselves as "the only thing stopping fascism" but they don't even try.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Democrats positioned themselves as “the only thing stopping fascism” but they don’t even try.

You can't keep the greed game going if you're on the sidelines. Gotta keep us voting for these inept dumbasses or they won't be able to enrich themselves!

I hate how we have 2 choices:

100% farm to table fascism

or

80% Corpo stooge 15% inept stooge 5% actually gives a shit about people.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 4 months ago

5% actually gives a shit about people

We have to balance the budget! There's simply no money left for giving a shit about people.

[–] CharlesDarwin 6 points 4 months ago

Democrats positioned themselves as “the only thing stopping fascism” but they don’t even try.

They seem to be there just to have the sand kicked into their face first.

[–] Jumpingspiderman 4 points 4 months ago

I like about 80-90% of what Biden’s done. But he and his generation of Dems don’t put as high a priority as they should n fighting to improve the lives of us little people. Should we avoid a fascist dictatorship and Biden gets 4 more years, replacing Garland has to be a top priority

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So the republicans are so criminal we can’t investigate them because of optics. I hate the government. Top to bottom.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If optics and mob threats are why you cant investigate corruption then in a very real sense right wing terrorism is working on the government.

[–] Ensign_Crab 15 points 4 months ago

We don't negotiate with terrorists; we preemptively capitulate.

[–] CharlesDarwin 4 points 4 months ago

If money is speech, it becomes the ONLY speech.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dear lord, what does he have to lose?

[–] frunch 8 points 4 months ago

How could ever look himself in the mirror if he helped the American people?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Garland is trash. Sat on his hands for over 2 years before being forced into prosecuting Trump, but too little too late and now nothing will come of it. Again has a chance to restore some justice in this nation by taking on the obviously corrupt Supreme Court, and again chooses to do nothing.

Biden could replace him, but for some reason keeps calling him John Mitchell and then just trails off staring at the floor…

[–] Linkerbaan 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They will only investigate the UAW because they called for a ceasefire in Gaza.

What a joke this is.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Controlled Opposition

Not just for the Kremlin, folks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Methinks the chap still hopes to be on the supreme court one day and isn't looking to piss off a potential future colleague.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 4 points 4 months ago

Christ, after running an 81 year old Presidential candidate, wouldn't it just be the thing for Dems to appoint a 72 year old SCOTUS judge.

[–] Jumpingspiderman 3 points 4 months ago

Garland should never again be near a judgeship. Or anything but retirement for that matter.

[–] Jumpingspiderman 7 points 4 months ago

Garland deserves to be remembered as someone who could have saved rule of law, but didn’t have the courage to do so. People should spit should they ever be forced to utter the craven coward’s name.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I don’t think we need experts to tell us that.

[–] CharlesDarwin 3 points 4 months ago

Remember, according to the RW, something something deep state radical leftist tyranny of Merrick Garland, etc...

[–] EvilEyedPanda 1 points 4 months ago

Croupt officials gotta stick together! ❤️

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