we also like to refer to our PM as tosser or wanker
this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2024
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That’s Sir tosser to you!
this guy politcs
I figured this was going to be somebody wanting to talk about his politics or something like that but no it's just a pedantic Englishman pissed that people are using the wrong title
to be fair, pedantry is one of our key exports
And we love you for it! My current favorite YouTuber is doing a "Star Trek Reviewed by a pedant" https://youtube.com/@unlimited_lives?si=h3DEcI8wWpVj-MgK
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Why bother getting to know their politics? The UK has been going through Prime Ministers faster than McDonalds fry cooks.
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The Right Honourable Member of Parliament Sir Keir Rodney Starmer, Knight of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, King's Council to His Royal Majesty Charles the Third, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories, King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, Lord of Mann, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Anything less is offensive and requires a licence.
Or you can just abbreviate that to "Cunt"
We all do it over here in blighty
The right honourable, Sir Cunt?
He's not honorable, and fuck his landed title. Just 'right cunt' is better
Here in the UK, you'll need a licence rather than a license :)
Oi mate, do you have a Loicense for that license?
He's "Sir Keir Starmer" or "Sir Keir".
Oh, so when you say it it's alright, but when we say it "it's called football". Double standards much?
Incredible username
Mother fucker! I nearly broke my tongue just trying to pronounce that in my head
OI MATE YEW GOT A LOISENSE TO TAWK ABOUT SIR KEIR?
What? You mean to tell me that he is not called Sir Prime Minister Mr. Keir Rodney Starmer? Unbelievable.
Unless you're Harriet Jones, Prime Minister
Yeah, but we all already know who she is
She looks tired
Damn you, you beat me to it
Canada's Westminster system the PM also gets Right Honourable as an title, going to assume it's similar based on some googling so you could totally use The Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer, but I've very very rarely seen news media use full titles outside of reporting on ceremonial activities.
Hardly anyone used the Queens full title. I'm actually not sure if the King has fewer titles but I bet it's still long.
But the one that is absolutely wrong is Queen/King of England. There hasn't been a King/Queen of England for hundreds of years.
Is there a Wrong Dishonourable title?
I think he has that title too by virtue of being an MP, not the PM.
other MPs (I assume all but could be wrong) are also Right Honourable.
Actually MPs are just 'Honourable', only Privy Council members are 'Right Honourable'.
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I'm not too familiar with knighthood. How did he become knighted?
He did a fairly good job as the head of criminal prosecutions in the UK for around 5 years, and he was knighted to recognise that when he stepped down
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That's daddy Starmer for you, boy
In fairness, this only applies in formal communication with someone from England. Even then, not everyone will choose to recognize his title, despite recognizing his position as PM.
It's still good to know! Never hurts to have understanding of formalities like this, and it's interesting. It's just that the application of it isn't going to come up often in places that aren't part of the Commonwealth
Are you allowed to not use the title? Like, could a newspaper call him starmeyboy?
Absolutely - if anything, there's a reluctance to use formal titles in the UK in general.
I used to teach at university - students and staff alike just use first names when addressing each other. When signing emails, we just use our first name, no letters, job title, anything.
It's even something specifically touched on in our orientation guide for foreign students.
As for newspapers and Prime Ministers specifically, one of the biggest newspapers, The Guardian, has a cartoonist who has always drawn David Cameron with a condom covering his head. There's absolutely no deference shown to Prime Ministers here.
And titles (e.g., Miss, Ms, Mr, Mrs, Dr, Prof.) aren’t used with only the first name.
(Though the BBC likes to do this with their ‘celebrity’ doctors).
Agreed in general, but I think 'Prime Minister Starmer' is fine tbh, when used by non UK media and people generally.
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