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[–] UmeU 92 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And Dell said “Great, thanks, saved us a ton on severance packages and allowed us to replace our high paid tenured employees with hungry graduates who are prepared to work themselves to death for peanuts”

[–] Cosmicomical 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

who are prepared to work themselves to death for peanuts

...while having no idea what they are doing

[–] plantedworld 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That's not this quarter's problem, silly!

[–] AWittyUsername 15 points 6 days ago

Yeah that's the next CEOs problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

That's a problem for next months Me to fire you for!

[–] ameancow 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Truth.

Been job hunting in similar fields for a while and as a middle-aged person, I simply cannot get a callback from any of these companies, then when you actually visit them and see some of their workforce, you rarely see anyone over late-20's, and it's all these high-energy, eager-to-please, eager-to-work-for-recognitionbucks, fresh-outta-college kids who can be exploited and turned over rapidly.

I am job hunting because the previous company I managed was bought out, downsized, and all the senior employees making more than entry level wages were cut. This is happening everywhere.

More and more technology, overseas outsourcing options, and general service/gig systems for filling job openings has left companies treating workers as disposable as toilet paper.

This is because almost every business is now part of a huge chain of ownership, and the shareholders at the top, groups of very rich old white dudes, just gather together in their hooded cloaks and look at the bars and graphs every month and decide what investments are to be amputated, and which to be kept. Before going back to their private sex islands.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

High paying jobs with tons of new graduates have an oversaturated supply problem. It's no surprise that when people figure out that becoming a software developer is easy street to 150k+++ WFH that there was a huge rush to get those jobs... now that there are TONS and TONS of young junior devs there is no shortage to hire someone for near minimum wage.

Why pay 400k for a senior developer when you can hire a mid-level for ~100k to be a manager, and 4 juniors for 60k a piece, and augment them with chatgpt to help them learn what they are skill gapped by.

Plus junior devs are so desperate you can force them to come into the office, something the dev divas ten years ago refused to do back when there was a huge shortage of coders.

[–] ameancow 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely correct, I watched this happen to our tech team before I was also thrown in the chipper.

And it doesn't help that a lot of the young people trying to get into coding and tech fields are not what you would call titans of confidence and charisma, these are mostly introverted and thoughtful people who have studied most of their lives under the belief that meritocracy exists, and they can prove themselves in the business world by doing great work and being a good employee.

Meanwhile glance over at the sales side of the building and there are people there making six figures a year who do next to nothing but party and tell lewd jokes, but are absolutely invulnerable to layoffs and downsizing as long as they can talk to clients and joke about sports with the CEO.

The disillusionment around the business world is real and unsustainable.

[–] LordCrom 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

God my last sales team were annoying. You can hear their bullshit from the floor above. They never shut up.

[–] ameancow 4 points 6 days ago

Every job I've had I've ended up becoming a liaison of sorts between the sales teams and the operational teams because I seem to be the Daywalker, who can walk between worlds and communicate with the techy nerds, take their issues to the loud sales assholes and make it all work.

It's not an enjoyable role but it always earned me high marks because nobody else can stomach it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I would like live in this world. We are trying to hire, and it's basically as hard as ever. Senior developers are super hard to get, or even to talk to. Even if you pay above average rates.

There's plenty of "LinkedIn senior" developers, tho. But after 3 years of C they can't explain a static variable or can't define a promise claiming to be js experts.

[–] iAvicenna 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

and this is why we are going to have a surge in enshittification in every piece of software and engineering around. eagerness and high energy does not replace decade of experience and ability to hold your composure against corporate pressure to do shady shit (if anything eagerness to please enable it)

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[–] MintyFresh 7 points 6 days ago

It's like seeing the Dracula myth reborn. They periodically come to wreak great violence, but always draining. Always unseen. Always feeding.

[–] Melvin_Ferd 62 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Anyone want to start a company. Work from home. We'll split profits among ourselves. We can. Build blackjack lottery machines and webhookers

[–] waffelhaus 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I will start developing the webhookers!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'll run quality control on the webhookers!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] LustyArgonianMana 7 points 6 days ago

I'll test the blackjack machines

[–] LustyArgonianMana 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

If this country cared about the environment or workers' safety, they'd fine companies who make employees work in the office/on site when they could work from home instead.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Imagine how many people die every year commuting to jobs they could have done from home

[–] LustyArgonianMana 14 points 6 days ago

If the commute was included in workplace deaths and injuries, I wonder where it would rank with OSHA's statistics

[–] teamevil 13 points 6 days ago

Problem is most of the folks influencing those that make laws also have huge real estate portfolios of commercial real estate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Others said their local offices had closed since the pandemic

This part is wild. So they closed down the office and then punish the employees for not coming into the office. Tell me this is illegal.

[–] rob_t_firefly 15 points 6 days ago

Dude... you're getting "or else."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Your move, Bitch!

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