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[–] foggy 89 points 5 months ago (21 children)

I explained to a police officer in my beer sharing circles during the George Floyd protests:

Damn near every kid in a high school cafeteria knows who the bad kids are and what tables they sit at. It's no different anywhere in the real world. Every cop at every precinct knows which cops are the bad ones.

Unlike a highschool cafeteria, you, as a police officer, have a civic, professional, and moral duty to do everything in your power to get those cops kicked the fuck out. And the idea that doing so might somehow harm your career? That's why "all cops are bastards." It's rotten from the top down. A few bad apples, in the case of police officers, spoils the whole bunch.

[–] MrVilliam 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

One of my friends was a cop when George Floyd was murdered. He said something like "I don't know what was in his heart so I can't say for certain that he was racist." I said well the area was 3% black and this happened to him while a crowd of people said stop, you're killing him all over suspicion of a nonviolent crime; what are the odds that this happens to a white person, then understand that white people are significantly more than 3% of the population there.

He's not a cop anymore.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 11 points 5 months ago

My friend dated a cop. He seemed like a good guy on paper.

He was upset about the George Floyd incident and hated what that dept did. He supported the right to protest like with BLM, and was angry at the depts that were heavy handed. He was furious at the Uvalde department.

His mentality was, "those departments make us look bad. My department is one of the good ones."

Here's where it goes into ACAB.

He got extremely protective and jealous of my friend and had trackers on her car. He racially profiled and called it "street math". Every problem was because people are trash, bad cops weren't "real cops", and he was one of the "Real Cops" who was willing to take out the trash. He absolutely saw himself more like Jack Bauer and that sometimes you do bad shit to save the world.

After the breakup, she scrubbed her social media and went into hiding. And dude harassed me for info for two years.

So yeah, ACAB.

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[–] Alk 8 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Genuine question. I'm not trying to make a point or anything, I more or less agree with this sentiment. What if a cop isn't "one of the bad ones" and does fight against the bad ones they see? There are medium/small town departments where that could work. Does the ACAB sentiment allow for this? Or is it so unfeasible that its not counted? What about the very few instances where this does happen? (Statistically speaking, it certainly has).

[–] frickineh 15 points 5 months ago

In most cases that I'm aware of, that officer has ended up leaving the police force. Sometimes they realize it's a futile effort and quit, sometimes they're basically forced off, and sometimes they end up dead under totally not suspicious circumstances. Non-bastard cops just don't usually stay cops.

[–] Serinus 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that there's no real oversight AND the cops will fight to prevent oversight. They love the ability to sexually abuse children and get a slap on the wrist. They love the ability to just have more leeway with the law than anyone else. Because they are the law, and their buddies will cover for them.

[–] Alk 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Right, I know why ACAB is a thing, but this doesn't answer any specific part of my question.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Hi German here, we say fuck ICE a lot because it's a fast Train who always comes late. But to make a long story short, I am missing something here, what does ICE stand for?

[–] [email protected] 87 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the US. They're basically the ones who raid homes and businesses looking for undocumented workers

[–] LordCrom 25 points 5 months ago (17 children)

And don't forget about separating parents from children, holding illegal immigrants in overcrowded cells made from chain link fences inside buildings.... They are America's version of the Show me your papers patrol.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement, border patrol. They're notorious for the abuse of immigrants(even legal ones) trying to cross over from Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (5 children)

in australia, we say f*** ice because its another word for crystal meth

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not gonna lie, I thought it was about Internal Combustion Engines at first.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

For real, fuck ICE. My fully booked evening train got cancelled after we had already boarded, the next two that day were fully booked as well, I had to find an airbnb with a toddler and travel the next day, and they replaced just half of the ticket price because I cOuLD HaVe tAKeN AnOtHer TrAiN

On the other hand their child merch is cute af

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[–] AngryCommieKender 6 points 5 months ago

Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Basically the federal border control cops that for some damn reason have jurisdiction anywhere within 250 miles of the border.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They let a bad apple spoil the bunch by not getting rid of the bad apple. Reaping what they sow.

[–] dustyData 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Well, you see. Those in charge want that apple there. Because when push comes to shove that apple will also kill activists, protestors and political opponents without asking questions or refusing orders. He will keep fellow apples in check and keep them from speaking up as well. They like that apple.

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[–] Zehzin 53 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It includes your dad, how many more times does he need to beat your mom for you to figure it out

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

40% of cops!

But for this one, please don't actually assume it's your friend timmy's dad, folks.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck inter-city express (ICE)? Yeah i agree the Deutsche Bahn is horrible & unreliable. Also their trains are always late.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While those trains are indeed always late, at least they don't pollute cities the way that ICE (Internal Combustion Engines) do!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey, at least internal combustion engines are useful for something

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey ! My dad's an internal combustion engine

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (5 children)

My sister in law is a (not American) cop when she's not an EMT ... And she also moonlights as a volunteer fireman.

Where on the hero-bastard spectrum of cheap generalization you've devised does she sit?

[–] Funkytom467 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nowhere, not American is a foreign concept to them.

[–] Glytch 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if your pun was intentional, but yeah anything not American would be foreign to an American. That's how definitions work.

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[–] undergroundoverground 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

*ACAB, in their capacity as cops.

[–] Retrograde 21 points 5 months ago

Yep, she's still unfortunately a bastard, sorry to say

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I think non-militarized cops, so most non-American ones, are not that bad and are generally more decent people than militarized cops. It's amazing how much better policing can be when cops don't carry guns with them all the time

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Must be " post unfunny memes" day today.

[–] bestagon 31 points 5 months ago

Be honest, post unfunny memes day is every day

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Hell yeah 😎

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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