I wonder how much of these lawyers filings are dictated by Trump himself. "He's looking at me funny -- Get the judge to make him stop!'
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I read an aticle about his recent New York trial and conviction. The author, a lawyer, said the same thing as you; that the tactics seemed to be more about feeding Trump's ego than presenting a coherent case.
Here's the thing about that gag order: It applies to everyone involved in the litigation. Defense, then-defendant-now-convicted-felon, and prosecution.
What it does not apply to are witnesses or bystanders or jurors. Because those people were neither accused nor convicted of any crimes.
Serious ask.
The article often cites the filing, and it appears to always refer to the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon as "President Trump".
Is that a legal name for the treasonous lying coward?
ETA: I'm curious because, using a passport application as example, I couldn't call myself Dictator Madasshatter, unless Dictator was a legal title, ie, part of my legal name.
So, in a legal filing, can you refer to someone however you want?
It's not his title at all, but he requires his toadies to call him such. Former president's are usually referred to as Mr. As in Mr. Obama.
https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing-a-former-president-of-the-united-states
This is how it should be. “President” is a job title not a royal title. No one should called “President” that isn’t serving in that role.
Unfortunately, people have been using it beyond their terms and the press goes along with it.
Actually, when kings/queens abdicate they usually lose the title king/queen. These titles are then re bestowed upon death. Would of course be ridiculous to have two living kings at the same time (similar to presidents).
For politicians they usually you the term previous or past to indicate they are no longer in power. So Trump would be past president or PP. since he was only in power for one term, you might want to add the adjective small, such that Trump’s full title becomes small PP.
Far be it from me to argue with the Emily Post institute, but I've heard former Presidents referred to as "President $NAME" my whole life....
Not once in my 40+ years have I heard a former President be referred to as "President X". It's always Mr. or former President unless we're talking historical text book at that time period when they were President.
Just Goolge Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton and and current news say Mr. or former President. Trump's ego demands his sycophants call him President Trump because "he never lost the election".
They are always addressed as "Mr.", but whether they continue to be referred to with the title of President is up to the individual style guide.
Not disagreeing but I've never heard Former President Carter referred to as Mr.
Traditionally, before Trump, former American Presidents were called “President,” “Mr. President,” or “Former President.”
That said, good journalists are refraining from using present-tense “President” labels for Trump because of his election denial bullshit. They’re calling him “former” when they do refer to his previous job.
I have never encountered this. I heard the use of former all the time though but generally not just mister whoever.
Not so much a legal name, but it's been convention that even after the person leaves office, they retain the title. After all, you can still describe him as the "45th President".
Is that a legal name for the treasonous lying coward?
My legal name for him is Convicted Felon and Sex Offender Treason Trump
We'd better get all of our rants out while then orange doofus can't say anything, then. We've only got a few weeks.
Edit: sorry, that was a bit insensitive. I meant call him convicted felon and sex offending orange doofus, grifter and serial narcissist.