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[–] [email protected] 121 points 3 months ago (10 children)

As an avid carnivore I'm excited about lab grown meat. I think anyone against it just doesn't realize what it is. It's literally meat. It's just not attached to an animal. That's all it is.

The best part is because it's not attached to an animal that needs animal things, it's basically free limitless meat. What meat lover wouldn't want that? Come on now.

I'm not too fond of all the lab grown microplastics though.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The moment lab grown is one PENNY cheaper at the store will be a massive moment for animal welfare.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Hell, current plant-based alternatives would be doing great too if they weren't inexplicably more expensive. Impossible Meat has a lower environmental impact and requires fewer resources to make than beef? Great! Why does it cost more then? I'm not even vegetarian but I'd happily switch to fake burgers if they weren't double the price.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

The answer to why is billions of dollars of subsidies to the animal meat industry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

That tells me demand is more driven by diet & environmental reasons than cost.

To make up numbers:

Price a pound of pleat, er plant meat, at $10, and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists buy it. Drop the price to $8 and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists and 2 price-sensitive environmentalists buy it.

Gross $100 on the former or $99 on the latter. Net more than one dollar extra profit on the former (10 pounds cheaper to produce than 12 pounds). Solution if you’re a profit-hungry corporation? Keep the price high.

Bummer but think that’s what’s going on

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[–] mecfs 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Until the party of freedom bans it. Hasn’t florida already?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Governor Meatball banned it, yeah. Guy's an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

It’s already been banned by entire states. Quite ridiculous and shows who their donors are.

[–] cm0002 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have seen vegans come out against lab grown meat...for...reasons? I get why they're vegans because of "traditional" meat, but lab grown meat doesn't have the problems of "traditional" meat LMAO

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They claim the DNA and cells used to seed the cultures is an "animal byproduct"

[–] capital 5 points 3 months ago

I've seen a mixed response in the community.

I've been vegan for about 4 years and I will be all over lab grown meat if/when it "makes it".

The biggest issue I remember reading about was "fetal bovine serum" which, IIRC, was needed continuously throughout the process.

Personally, if all that's required to get started is a cell sample from a living animal which isn't harmed beyond the sample (minor and far from life threatening or causing suffering) then I'll be eating it for sure.

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[–] norimee 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm a flexitarian with meat cravings every so often and I'm exited for Lab-meat too. I'm totally with you know this.

And come on, how many of these people screaming about lab meat actually know where their meat comes from. Most of it comes out of meat processing plants and the thought of these makes me really squeezy. Every now and then there are investigative pieces about them and they are all disgusting and really concerning. I'd take lab-grown any day.

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[–] ChicoSuave 3 points 3 months ago

Also, the meat flavors can be refined and adjusted for better results. The proteins and fat can be precisely calculated to make objectively the best steak available to mankind, ever. People against lab grown meat have no idea when they order a steak they are being fed propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.

[–] TheBat 1 points 3 months ago

Forget food. We can grow body parts in labs. No need to wait for someone to die and donate their organs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The right wing panic* over how the left wants to destroy hamburgers and make everyone eat bugs is hilarious. You already eat bugs and you love it, you just call them shrimp and lobster!

If you want to say that doesn’t count, you STILL probably eat bugs in any processed food that’s red and doesn’t have artificial dye in it. They’re listed as cochineal/carmine/crimson lake/natural red 4/E120 <- these are all the same bug!

* not saying that’s what you’re doing OP, that’s just the most common context I see it

[–] candybrie 17 points 3 months ago

They're just also in anything processed. Everything has an allowable amount of bugs. And it isn't usually 0. https://www.fda.gov/food/current-good-manufacturing-practices-cgmps-food-and-dietary-supplements/food-defect-levels-handbook

[–] wonderfulvoltaire 4 points 3 months ago

As long as food is processed correctly either through farm animals or a lab I really don't care what it is. Actual health should be the only priority above any profits or ambiguity.

[–] Skullgrid 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

it would be funny if it didn't feel like conservative propaganda

[–] Dasnap 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People against lab meat give me 5G tower fanatic vibes.

[–] sleep_deprived 17 points 3 months ago

In contrast, politicians against lab grown meat give me "bought out by the meat industry" vibes.

[–] Geek_King 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Exactly my thoughts. I'm so entirely down for lab grown meat. If they can get the texture and taste perfected, and make manufacturing fast and effcient, it'd be a much better alternative to raising cows and chickens. No animal suffering, no devoting huge percentage of our arable land to growing food for live stock. It's just an all around win, but some people are so against it, hell Florida made it illegal there!

[–] SandLight 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, I hope to die a technovegan. But until then I'll just try and limit my consumption because there's no way I'm giving up sausage and cheese

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What do people even have against soy milk‽ It tastes great!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I prefer oat milk

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are certainly entitled to that opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Wrong, but entitled.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I like to put it in my coffee and have DOUBLE BEAN WATER

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

I think you need a screwdriver holding the tip off ever so slightly

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No Brawndo? What kind of inaccurate bs is this?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

It's what plants crave!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Show us the other 3 sides of the pyramid!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Pshh they know they can't. Pyramids are just a conspiracy from big government.

Only triangles exist and they know it. Have you ever seen all "4 sides"? Huh? What about the 5th side? Does that even exist? And wouldn't that make it a square?

Remember, I am not obtuse, don't isosce-late me from the truth! We are right!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I'd like to see the triangle grow two additional sides, becoming a 3-sided pyramid. Then, a fourth pops up, turning into a typical 4 sided one. But then, a fifth appears, then a sixth, then more and more untill it becomes a food cone

Then it flips over and gets filled with ice cream. There, the perfect food pyramid!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The 5th side is the bottom.

[–] Pencilnoob 10 points 3 months ago

Ugh this has "angry dude vlogging from his pickup truck" vibes.

Of course his food pyramid looks like:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Survivors can have a little antidepressant. As a treat

[–] cannedtuna 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What did the original one have where pure reason is now?

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My question too.. I'm sure the mod makes/changes a statement, but I'd like to see what.

Edit: here it is - seed oils. Not sure why the change.

[–] scottywh 4 points 3 months ago

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

Good luck with brain development.

[–] Fedizen 2 points 3 months ago

we already eat sea arthropods or "bugs": shrimp, lobster, crab.

[–] Etterra 2 points 3 months ago

Joke's on you, antidepressants have been at the top of my pyramid for like 10 years. I figured out that the future actually sucks way before i realized that it was largely the fault of late-stage capitalism. The rest is just people being people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What was the original second tier?

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[–] thefrankring 1 points 3 months ago

Can't wait feeding of anti-depressants.

Sounds so fun.

[–] nifty 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Bugs and soy milk/lab grown meat on the same pyramid make no sense

Edit to say having Kant under the banner of reason doesn’t make sense either

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