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[–] [email protected] 121 points 5 months ago (10 children)

As an avid carnivore I'm excited about lab grown meat. I think anyone against it just doesn't realize what it is. It's literally meat. It's just not attached to an animal. That's all it is.

The best part is because it's not attached to an animal that needs animal things, it's basically free limitless meat. What meat lover wouldn't want that? Come on now.

I'm not too fond of all the lab grown microplastics though.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The moment lab grown is one PENNY cheaper at the store will be a massive moment for animal welfare.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Hell, current plant-based alternatives would be doing great too if they weren't inexplicably more expensive. Impossible Meat has a lower environmental impact and requires fewer resources to make than beef? Great! Why does it cost more then? I'm not even vegetarian but I'd happily switch to fake burgers if they weren't double the price.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

The answer to why is billions of dollars of subsidies to the animal meat industry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

That tells me demand is more driven by diet & environmental reasons than cost.

To make up numbers:

Price a pound of pleat, er plant meat, at $10, and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists buy it. Drop the price to $8 and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists and 2 price-sensitive environmentalists buy it.

Gross $100 on the former or $99 on the latter. Net more than one dollar extra profit on the former (10 pounds cheaper to produce than 12 pounds). Solution if you’re a profit-hungry corporation? Keep the price high.

Bummer but think that’s what’s going on

[–] JimVanDeventer 1 points 5 months ago

If you have a food processor it's trivially easy to make all sorts of plant-based burgers for cheap. Beet burgers are amazing. Not healthy. Oh, no, no, no. Just delicious.

[–] mecfs 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Until the party of freedom bans it. Hasn’t florida already?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Governor Meatball banned it, yeah. Guy's an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

It’s already been banned by entire states. Quite ridiculous and shows who their donors are.

[–] cm0002 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have seen vegans come out against lab grown meat...for...reasons? I get why they're vegans because of "traditional" meat, but lab grown meat doesn't have the problems of "traditional" meat LMAO

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They claim the DNA and cells used to seed the cultures is an "animal byproduct"

[–] capital 5 points 5 months ago

I've seen a mixed response in the community.

I've been vegan for about 4 years and I will be all over lab grown meat if/when it "makes it".

The biggest issue I remember reading about was "fetal bovine serum" which, IIRC, was needed continuously throughout the process.

Personally, if all that's required to get started is a cell sample from a living animal which isn't harmed beyond the sample (minor and far from life threatening or causing suffering) then I'll be eating it for sure.

[–] capital 1 points 5 months ago

I'm vegan and I'll be eating it when it's available provided the only animal product to get started is a cell sample.

But if it requires continuous animal inputs to sustain then it's simply not vegan. You could argue that even acquiring a cell sample to get started also isn't but needing continuous animal inputs certainly isn't.

[–] norimee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm a flexitarian with meat cravings every so often and I'm exited for Lab-meat too. I'm totally with you know this.

And come on, how many of these people screaming about lab meat actually know where their meat comes from. Most of it comes out of meat processing plants and the thought of these makes me really squeezy. Every now and then there are investigative pieces about them and they are all disgusting and really concerning. I'd take lab-grown any day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes! Processed meat scares me. People have no issue with it though. Don't look up what's in it if you want your stomach to stay where it is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why would they stop making garbage over-processed meat products just because the base meat doesn't come from animals anymore? It won't be suddenly more healthy if that's what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I didn't say anything like that.

[–] ChicoSuave 3 points 5 months ago

Also, the meat flavors can be refined and adjusted for better results. The proteins and fat can be precisely calculated to make objectively the best steak available to mankind, ever. People against lab grown meat have no idea when they order a steak they are being fed propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.

[–] TheBat 1 points 5 months ago

Forget food. We can grow body parts in labs. No need to wait for someone to die and donate their organs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ideally this would completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.