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President Vladimir Putin warned Wednesday that Russia could provide long-range weapons to others to strike Western targets in response to NATO allies allowing Ukraine to use their arms to attack Russian territory.

Putin also reaffirmed Moscow’s readiness to use nuclear weapons if it sees a threat to its sovereignty.

The recent actions by the West will further undermine international security and could lead to “very serious problems,” he said, taking questions from international journalists — something that has become extremely rare since Moscow sent troops into Ukraine.

“That would mark their direct involvement in the war against the Russian Federation, and we reserve the right to act the same way,” Putin added.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Others? What others? Who's going to just start shooting missiles at NATO countries? That'd be a very short war for whoever that is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Iran already has enough weapons that they could attack NATO (not successfully but still). We know that because they give them to Russia.

What weapons is Russia going to supply, they don't have anything.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] MrNesser 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Quick proxy war in belaus followed by them joining nato

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No one would even set foot there. NATO would just bombard them with missiles for a month until their government collapsed. Russia wouldn't though. It likes it's little border fief.

[–] leave_it_blank 1 points 6 months ago

No they wouldn't. Think of Israel! The press!

[–] RidcullyTheBrown 5 points 6 months ago

ISIS? Hamas? any number of such organizations would happily use some mass murdering weapons if given access to them. Putin has shown that he doesn't care about what happens to russian citizens if he can win something out of their suffering so empowering terrorist organizations to harm people, even russians, is not a big price to pay to make his point

[–] Bogusmcfakester 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What a cry baby bitch, Russia has already been sourcing weapons from North Korea and Iran, Ukraine is just gettin better stuff from the collective west. If he would allow other aligned nations to strike western targets from their territories with Russian weapons I fail to see how basically all of NATO would not see that as fair game to strike from their own territories. Seems like a massive escalation Russia and anyone who went along with it would not want.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He just says pretty much anything but it's all designed for the Home market he doesn't really expect international audiences to believe any of it. Honestly we could probably not report on any of this stuff and it wouldn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, you nailed it. He is just setting the tone for his propaganda networks to amplify.

The biggest part is making sure people believe that NATO is trying to start a war with Russia. Since NATO was originally formed to protect against Russian aggression, it's easy to paint NATO countries as aggressors.

The Russian message is consistent: They are the victims and all additional messaging revolves around that.

[–] sylver_dragon 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Russia could do that. But, they are kinda busy trying to keep up with demand from their own forces. And that's only going to get worse as they run out of mothballed Soviet shitboxes to reactivate.

[–] ours 11 points 6 months ago

They have to heavily rely on Iranian made drones, I doubt they want to share those.

[–] FuglyDuck 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Saber rattling.

the only reason this is scary is that at some point some idiot is going to call putin on it, and then everyone's gonna have to get involved.

Growing up, one thing I learned about dog piles? it sucks being the one on the bottom, and there ain't no football in war.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago
[–] eran_morad 17 points 6 months ago

Cool story blyat.

[–] FlowVoid 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Imagine what would have happened if Soviet-made MiGs were used against Americans in Korea and Vietnam.

[–] NOT_RICK 4 points 6 months ago

Some of those came paired with Soviet pilots too!

[–] slumlordthanatos 14 points 6 months ago

Do it.

See what happens.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Putin: I ain’t scared of the West, I could kick their ass any day, I just don’t feel like it right now, but be careful

Also Putin, whenever a country near him wants to join NATO, i.e. he’d be picking a fight with the West if he attacked them: Reeeeeeeeeeee

[–] tired_n_bored 9 points 6 months ago

This cuck pretends he does not understand that nobody wants to invade/conquer Russia, we just want his genocidal troops to gtfo Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Yaaaawn. A joke doesnt get better if you tell it over and over again Vladimir

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When Russia warns that they may do something what they're really saying is that they won't do something.

They're always threatening to end the world. But they won't because that would also end them too. If they don't go that far and stick to a conventional War I don't like their chances either, after all they're not doing well against a small number of NATO weapons. Do they expect to win a war against all of the NATO weapons?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

They don't have the money to maintain their nukes, so we know they're likely all junk. They're getting their asses kicked by Ukraine. Their equipment is outdated and junk. They're not sending shit anywhere because they don't have the shit to send. At this point Russia is as big of a joke as the republikkklown party.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Keeps reminding me of this South Park scene:

"Hey, hey, hey, 'member the Cold War?" "Ooh, I love the Cold War, that was fantastic!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Getting inspired by Iran's support for the Houthis I see.

[–] retrospectology 4 points 6 months ago

He could do that, sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The United States and Germany recently authorized Ukraine to hit some targets on Russian soil with the long-range weapons they are supplying to Kyiv.

Putin claimed that using some Western-supplied weapons involves military personnel of those countries controlling the missiles and selecting targets, and therefore he said Moscow could take “asymmetrical” steps elsewhere in the world.

Putin also said Trump’s felony conviction at his hush money trial last week was the result of “the use of the court system as part of the internal political struggle.”

Asked about Russian military losses, Putin said that no country would reveal that information during hostilities but claimed without providing details that Ukraine’s casualties are five times greater than Russia’s.

Asked by AP about the case of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, Putin said the U.S. is “taking energetic steps” to secure his release.

Last year, journalists from countries that Russia regards as unfriendly — including the U.S., the U.K. and the European Union — were not invited, and Western officials and investors also steered clear of the session after wide-ranging sanctions were imposed on Moscow over Ukraine.


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