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[–] [email protected] 204 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 183 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

When I quit at McDonalds to start a career in welding, the owner of the store happened to be visiting. He took me aside and told me "You know, those guys at... (Sorry, what was that place called again? Right...) You know, I've heard the people there aren't as nice as we are here. Are you sure you want to leave?"

I've never wanted to punch an old man so much in my life. In that moment, he was the personification of class warfare to me, trying to "trick" me into throwing away my future just so he could have more cheap labour. And the fact it was so blatantly obvious added insult to, well... insult.

Anyway, it's not the same, but the "wallpapers" thing definitely gives me the same vibes, lol.

[–] dohpaz42 52 points 1 month ago

It really is the same thing though. It’s out of touch, insulting, and downright disrespectful to use something that is not unique to the provider, or valuable at all, as a reason to stay with said provider.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I quit my supermarket job after getting my accounting degree my manager tried to convince me to stay, saying they had plans to promote me into management and eventually I could work my way into a head office position.

Umm, no thanks, I think I'll take the job that I've been working towards getting for years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Jeez, at least offer assistant to the manager on the spot!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

They have me by the wallpapers!

[–] bappity 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Well, you have to admit they are by far the best feature of bing

[–] Valmond 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The xiaomi wallpaper carousel is the worst piece of soft on my phone, I don't care and no you can't have all those accesses.

Had to install some freeware to just set the backgrounds wtf is this, the way they are getting people now??

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Literally used adb to forcefully remove it... It reinstalled itself. Bruh

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[–] ooterness 122 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This isn't funny, this is just the sad state of software these days.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

It’s funny how chrome users are struggling with all those bullshit. Firefox for the win

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[–] anas 94 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought we were past the age of toolbar spam

[–] Toneswirly 55 points 1 month ago

It never went away, just the degree of desperation has changed

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Why would anyone in 2024 honestly switch to google products.

They are worse than microsoft, and that takes effort.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Well when the alternative is Bing quality search results, Google still has a slight edge.

That gap is closing by the day tho.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That gap has flipped. Bing never told me to put glue on pizza or to jump off a bridge if depressed.

[–] kshade 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

~~It is telling you to eat that deadly mushroom though.~~

[–] wanderer 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] accideath 31 points 1 month ago

The gap has been favouring bing (DuckDuckGo) for a while now in my experience. Every time I use Google or just doesn’t find what I’m looking for. Just a few days ago, when Bing was down and I had to use Google, I tried searching for the new beta nvidia Linux drivers. Google didn’t even include the official nvidia site in the first page of results. When I later searched for the same thing again, using DuckDuckGo, it was the first result… and stuff like that happens every time I need to use Google. The only category Google still seems to have a slight edge in is current (as in happening right now) events.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah, the way Microsoft and Edge work still enrages me. I just use both Chrome and Firefox atm, with Chrome behind my VPN and Firefox split tunneled. I'm still on 10, but when I have the freedom to do so I'm going to switch to Linux. I can't just up and do it at the moment because I work through my computer and also game through it, so I need to have a ton of things ensured workable before I switch. That requires time and testing, and in an ideal environment a second system to run in parallel, which I cannot do atm.

I've heard our work may be purchasing work laptops for us, so I might be able to do my switch then.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Microsoft is magnitudes worse than google.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

@anarchist @kbin_space_program in the same sense that pissing yourself is better than shitting yourself maybe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 1 month ago

Because most people are not anywhere near as computer literate as much of Lemmy would have you believe.

[–] solrize 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bing (and therefore duckduckgo) was down a couple days ago. I could imagine people temporarily switching to google during the outage.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago

Gross
But considering the current state of Google search, not as gross as it was.

[–] umbraroze 59 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You Chrome folks need extensions to use non-Google search engines?

Firefox uses just bog standard OpenSearch definitions. No shenanigans. Ships with both Google and Bing if you're into that sort of things. And you can add arbitrary search URLs, no probalo.

[–] Ironfacebuster 22 points 1 month ago

No, it looks like something Windows automatically added to their chrome to enforce Bing, unless something changed recently and I didn't know about it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

You don't, but you can.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You don't have to use an extension to do it, but some find it easier to do than finding it in settings.

The same is true for Firefox.

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[–] Rolando 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Microsoft is offering wallpapers, ask Google what it's offering before you make the decision.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Violations of privacy. Microsoft has that too though, so unless Google has wallpapers they need to step up their game.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Midlevel management does this, not developers

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was asking myself the same thing. This is a pathetic state of affairs... The only thing missing is that the google banner would now also acknowledge the Bing box and tell you specifically "don't listen to the other popup!".

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[–] RustyNova 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Apart from the search engines being both shitty, here there's nothing wrong

If you installed an extension to use bing search, what you want is to use bing search, not Google. So of course the extension has to say "don't switch"

There's also a good point on chrome's side. There's extensions that will switch your default search engine without your consent, so having the possibility to undo directly is nice.

Another way to see it, would be to switch chrome for firefox, Google search for duck duck go, and bing to qwant. Same story, but no shitty companies clouding judgements

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But microsoft install that for you without consent, according to other comment on lemmy.

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[–] FlyingSquid 16 points 1 month ago

You know that scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit where Donald and Daffy Duck are both playing the same song on individual pianos while trying to kill each other? Yeah.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

And this is the real game of monopoly, of course.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

So when running a Linux desktop, what does one do to avoid these search engines? I use DuckDuckGo for the moment, but if love some alternatve that isnopen source too, self hosted if need be, and federated would be awesome

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Federated?

You're just throwing together FOSS buzzwords at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Searx is pretty great, although I wouldn't recommend self-hosting it. Just use one of the public instances like Searx Belgium because it is harder to fingerprint you off of your searches since a lot of people also do their searches on the same instance.

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[–] thefrankring 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The screenshot doesn't show it, but there's also an X in the top right of the screen.

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[–] jedibob5 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's honestly incredible that Bing even still exists, much less is still being actively being pushed by M$

[–] accideath 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bing is the default engine in Edge which is the default browser on Windows. There’s a huuuge demographic who doesn’t care enough to change either of those.

Also, Bing profits from other search engines using their results as a base. DuckDuckGo, for example, uses Bing as their primary source for search results. And in my experience is better at it than google, these days.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Both currently are terrible.

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