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Legislation just signed into law has made it exceedingly to difficult to track private jet activity.

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[–] Ensign_Crab 246 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Congress is working on issues that matter to the American people.

Like making sure the wealthy are even less accountable.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Its the Tragedy of the Commons. No single individual really has an incentive to stop flying, outside of the marginal impact on PR. So everyone just says its someone else's problem.

The FAA is toothless. The EPA is toothless. The individual industry leaders are more legally beholden to shareholders than any regulatory body. Even in aggregate, the emission volume of flights pale beside the emissions caused by coal stacks and automotive emissions and bunker fuel from bulk cargo shipping, so its the billionaire equivalent of saying "At least I'm recycling" when pushed about what you're doing to curb greenhouse gases.

At the end of the day, what we need is a comprehensive investment in high speed mass transit. But fossil fuel companies hate that. Aeronautics companies hate that. Politicians fixated on quarterly budget figures hate that. And the folks that would actually build rail in this country no longer exist.

So whatchagonna do? Shrug, blame "the system", and go with the flow because everyone else is doing it.

[–] Nobody 157 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

bill that was passed last week will allow private aircraft owners to anonymize their registration information

Private planes fly anonymously? Even if order and justice was restored to the world, we couldn’t find the next Epstein’s island.

And how will this affect drug trafficking? If you can’t trace private planes, it becomes the Wild West.

[–] Cosmicomical 61 points 4 weeks ago

You don't know? Rich people is above suspect and law

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, the anonymity only counts for the public. The alphabet soup guys will know.

[–] Num10ck 22 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

investigative reporting should exist

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[–] psycho_driver 22 points 4 weeks ago

And how will this affect drug trafficking?

Those planes will still be registered to the CIA

[–] Ensign_Crab 17 points 4 weeks ago

Even if order and justice was restored to the world, we couldn’t find the next Epstein’s island.

Which is probably the whole idea.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

It’s about Swift and not one of the richest people in the world who lives in the kleptocracy that passed this legislation and historically has made a big fuss over this issue?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 weeks ago

He is also in the article, yes.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 12 points 4 weeks ago

As with the ticketmaster story, if you put Taylor Swift's picture on the headline it gets more clicks.

It's just that simple.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago

I blind clicked hoping that wasn't the answer

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[–] j4k3 86 points 4 weeks ago

Neo feudalism just checked another box against democracy.

[–] themeatbridge 77 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Right, they did it for Taylor Swift.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It definitely had nothing to do with Elon Musk or Ken Griffin. Definitely not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Just at a glance I'd say it had absolutely nothing to do with swift, just a false flag operation to announce the change and ignore the reason. Now we just need a hero to find a workaround.

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[–] Cosmicomical 54 points 4 weeks ago

Dammit, I guess we can't complain anymore about how much fuel they waste every day, so we are fine. Oh wait, no they are still pieces of shit.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 54 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a big club, and we ain't in it.

[–] TokenBoomer 9 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I’ve never wanted to be in that club. In fact, I think I’m happier because I’m not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm glad for people like you, because I've spent a good chunk of my life desperately wishing to be in that club, and then another chunk being sad that I wouldn't be able to be. I was miserable and latched onto something that I believed would alleviate it, but I nowadays definitely think I'm happier not being in that club.

[–] Fosheze 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I've never really wanted to be in the private jet billionare club but I have always wanted to be in the "have a nice paid off house and enough money to safely start a small business" club. Sure, being a billionare would get me that but what would I do with the other 99.999% of the money?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, this will also make aviation safety analysis more difficult for us.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The plane crash we don't hear about is one we don't worry about. Good news for the aviation industry.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So if the only thing hidden is the airplanes ID seems like it would still be relatively easy to have a program sift through the data.2

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah all we need is to track which private plane specifically went on the exact pattern of her tours

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[–] MrEff 22 points 4 weeks ago

As much as I say fuck the billionaires, they have actually already had methods of doing this for about 50 years. Only the dumb billionaires who registered the planes in their name were annoyed about the rules. They could have always registered it under a trust, like almost every other rich person private jet out there. People can still figure out the plane tail registration and track you through that, and that will never change. So the billionaires that are happy about this regulation change still have their tail numbers known by the public to be associated with them and can still be tracked. Now they just have to change their tail numbers (giant pain) and wait for people to do slightly more difficult digging to figure out what plane is theirs.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago

This is going to help bring down everyday prices, stop Genocide and will ensure another Epstein type billionaire who privately flies people to his pedophile island will receive swift Justice!

[–] ParabolicMotion 16 points 4 weeks ago

So when her plane goes missing, we’ll all treat her like Amelia Earhart. She doesn’t fly her own plane though; not quite Amelia.

[–] Badeendje 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yeah well figuring out who owns what jet will mearginally harder. Like with metadata if you have a few data points it will be easy to figure out who owns what plane. And it is not like these people don't travel much so the data points will Stack up fast.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Celebrities and billionaires have long complained that it’s just way too easy for random people on the internet to monitor how much fuel exhaust they waste as they flit through the skies via their private jets.

An amendment in the Federal Aviation Administration re-authorization bill that was passed last week will allow private aircraft owners to anonymize their registration information.

Jet tracking has been made possible up until this point because private plane owners were forced to register aircraft ownership information with the FAA civil registry.

The Warzone originally reported that the new FAA reauthorization bill, which was introduced last June, will effectively make it impossible (or, at the very least, very, very hard) to track the jet activity of the well-to-do.

That’s a bummer, since in an age of environmental concerns, it’s been helpful to know which members of America’s gilded class are spewing jet fuel into the atmosphere.

Elon Musk famously threatened to sue Jack Sweeney, an undergraduate at the University of Florida, after the student made a Twitter account that tracked the billionaire’s private jet activity, ElonJet, in 2020.


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[–] aeronmelon 12 points 4 weeks ago

Is it "impossible" or is it "exceedingly difficult?"

[–] riodoro1 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So congress does actually work?

[–] Cosmicomical 40 points 4 weeks ago

Of course they do, just not for you

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