this post was submitted on 20 May 2024
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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] Hobbes_Dent 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Before coming to a complete stop in the adjacent field, the Tesla collided with a pole, resulting in significant damage to the front right wheel and suspension, as well as a cracked bumper and fender. The driver reportedly sustained minor injuries but did not require medical attention.

Oh, and the human was ok too.

[–] dogsnest 9 points 7 months ago

Save $$ if human dies.

[–] NegativeLookBehind 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Say what you want about the rest of the car, but Tesla has done really well on the “shit your pants” feature

[–] dogsnest 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is that the solid version for $5.99/mo, or the premium 'extra-soggy' for $7.49/mo?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 7 months ago

The latter is also known as Shitter Brown.

[–] brygphilomena 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Without lidar or radar and only relying on normal cameras. How well does a Tesla do in fog or other low visibility conditions?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

It doesn’t

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Funny thing about Musk spending a decade+ insisting he (meaning screamed at and traumatized Tesla programmers) could figure out FSD without lidar...

...Yep he finally went back on that:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/7/24151497/tesla-lidar-luminar-elon-musk-sensor-autonomous

[–] polygon6121 4 points 7 months ago

Finally they went back on that.. not for the production cars, but at least for validation purposes

[–] IphtashuFitz 8 points 7 months ago

Terrible. I have a Model Y that’s “vision only” and didn’t even bother testing out FSD when Tesla enabled it recently for a free 30 day trial.

Among other things:

  • The cameras can get blinded by dirt/grime/etc. The forward facing cameras are located behind the rear view mirror where the windshield wipers can reach, but having the auto wipers turn on when it’s a clear sunny day is annoying. And if it’s something like bird poop then the wipers just smear it everywhere.
  • I fairly regularly get notifications when the sun is low in the sky, or during winter months when road grime kicks up, that one or more side cameras is blinded. Not much you can do about solar glare, and you’d have to stop and get out to clean them if it’s not solar glare.
  • The cameras also control automatic high beams, which are required for either autopilot or FSD at night. The auto high beams are terrible at detecting oncoming traffic and can flash/blind other drivers very easily. Because of this I haven’t used cruise control at night in over two years now.
[–] Wrench 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For that matter, wouldn't fog impact lidar?

[–] AlotOfReading 8 points 7 months ago

It does, but in less significant ways that are easier to work around.

[–] Wrench 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The owner of the Tesla Model 3 claims that the FSD failed to react on passing trains twice in the past six months

Well maybe your stupid ass should be paying attention to the road, especially around potential obstructions, and reducing speed when it's fucking foggy.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Blame the company selling a product that doesn’t actually exist. FSD is an accident waiting to happen (and has several times). If you’re told by someone that this will keep you safer, you let your guard down over time.

I don’t agree with the people that are letting their guard down, because I personally never would, but they were taught they could. Until Tesla has to take full responsibility in every crash that happens when FSD is enabled (including moments just before), it should not be acceptable to allow the driver to relinquish control of the wheel, full stop.

[–] demizerone 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was trying to show off to a friend with FSD back in 2021 and it nearly swerved into oncoming traffic. Biggest waste of money ever. I would say never again, but America is a scam economy. Scams are everywhere, and I will be scammed again.

[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 7 months ago

Scams are everywhere, and I will be scammed again.

Believe it or not, that's the proper attitude. People who think they are too smart to be scammed (or scammed again) don't keep as vigilant.

[–] wreckedcarzz 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How are you that dense to not notice that the car isn't slowing down at all, for that long? Driver's a fucking moron.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

They bought a Tesla, so yeah.