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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] brygphilomena 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Without lidar or radar and only relying on normal cameras. How well does a Tesla do in fog or other low visibility conditions?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Funny thing about Musk spending a decade+ insisting he (meaning screamed at and traumatized Tesla programmers) could figure out FSD without lidar...

...Yep he finally went back on that:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/7/24151497/tesla-lidar-luminar-elon-musk-sensor-autonomous

[–] polygon6121 4 points 7 months ago

Finally they went back on that.. not for the production cars, but at least for validation purposes

[–] IphtashuFitz 8 points 7 months ago

Terrible. I have a Model Y that’s “vision only” and didn’t even bother testing out FSD when Tesla enabled it recently for a free 30 day trial.

Among other things:

  • The cameras can get blinded by dirt/grime/etc. The forward facing cameras are located behind the rear view mirror where the windshield wipers can reach, but having the auto wipers turn on when it’s a clear sunny day is annoying. And if it’s something like bird poop then the wipers just smear it everywhere.
  • I fairly regularly get notifications when the sun is low in the sky, or during winter months when road grime kicks up, that one or more side cameras is blinded. Not much you can do about solar glare, and you’d have to stop and get out to clean them if it’s not solar glare.
  • The cameras also control automatic high beams, which are required for either autopilot or FSD at night. The auto high beams are terrible at detecting oncoming traffic and can flash/blind other drivers very easily. Because of this I haven’t used cruise control at night in over two years now.
[–] Wrench 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For that matter, wouldn't fog impact lidar?

[–] AlotOfReading 8 points 7 months ago

It does, but in less significant ways that are easier to work around.