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HELLDIVERS™ 2 - HELLDIVERS™ 2 Account Linking Update (store.steampowered.com)
submitted 7 months ago by inclementimmigrant to c/pcgaming
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Well, well, well. I see Sony wants to kill all the goodwill their game has garnered with this linking bullshit.

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[–] Bahnd 68 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whelp, it was fun while it lasted... Good job sony.

Apparently this is already a massive problem for people who are in countries that PSN is not avalible in, using a VPN to create an account to link to has resulted in getting banned. Also seeing as most players are already past the Steam refund window, this is utterly unacceptable.

I dont want to blame Arrowhead too much, this reeks of partnership/publisher meddeling. If they made it so that linking account is not required if crossplay is disabled, I would find that acceptable.

[–] PlantJam 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Note that the refund window is for it to be automatically approved. Beyond that it has to be manually reviewed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I requested a refund. They said since it's been 2 week they cannot provide a refund at this time.

[–] Paddzr 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Appeal. Everyone should do it. Force their hand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I submitted a ticket to AH directly. But if that fails I'll do another one with steam

[–] PlantJam 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've heard that steam is approving pretty much all refunds for HD2 now, worth a try to request it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I hope so. I've been rejected 4 times now. But I keep trying

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

I set Steam to ignore all Playstation products, but I've been meaning to do that for over a year now. It has nothing to do with Helldivers. I don't Sony anymore.

[–] newthrowaway20 18 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Anyone know if Ghost of Tsushima is gonna require a PSN account? You know, since they're adding in that whole overlay thing. I always figured it was gonna be optional but now, I'm not so sure.

[–] Stovetop 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would assume it will. Lesson learned: even if it doesn't at launch, they could decide to require it at any time.

[–] halcyoncmdr 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Devil's advocate...

For Helldivers specifically here, the PSN requirement was listed on the Steam page at launch. It wasn't enforced, but it was disclosed.

Not saying I agree, it's a shitty move that definitely seems like it's being forced by Sony who couldn't care any less about publicity. But this requirement was already there for anyone that bothered to read the store page, even if it wasn't enforced at the time.

[–] nman90 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If that's the case, then the game should not have been sold to those in countries that don't have access to psn.

[–] halcyoncmdr 3 points 7 months ago

No argument from me there. Especially since they're saying the only reason it wasn't required was some sort of technical issue at launch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Do we actually know if it was? I mean, I know people from those countries bought it, but many of them use vpns to buy things they want to either pay less, or get them at all.

So for example, was it for sale in Egypt?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

According to their Twitter account it's only required for online legends access. Single player requires no account

[–] inclementimmigrant 2 points 7 months ago

Account required of you want the multiplayer aspect, which is why I will not buy it since that's the only reason I want to buy and play it since I've already finished it on the PS4 with a physical copy.

[–] CosmicCleric 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Account linking plays a critical role in protecting our players

Could someone elaborate on this? How does linking protect players?

Edit: Found this video about the subject that seems to describe the situation well. (I am not affiliated with that video/content creator.)

~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The post says this: "This is our main way to protect players from griefing and abuse by enabling the banning of players that engage in that type of behaviour. It also allows those players that have been banned the right to appeal."

I find that of dubious justification, but that's their explanation.

[–] inclementimmigrant 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, I also find it to be bullshit since steam already has a way to ban and a appeals process they can follow.

Nah, this is just corporate meddling to get more data to mine and sell and let it be stolen when Sony inevitably allows another data breach.

[–] CosmicCleric 4 points 7 months ago

Sounds familiar to the reasoning they gave for having root level cheat detection in their game.

~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

[–] Godric 20 points 7 months ago

It lets players have their data leaked in one of Sony's biweekly data breaches

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Account linking plays a critical role in protecting our player *'s information from getting sold without them getting a piece of the pie

*fixed