Oh sweet summer child, your dad knows parts of the internet you have barely seen in your dreams.
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+1 for the precise use of "mf"
I'm late to the party but it can also pull double duty for "My father"
Abby’s no cop, just a giant science nerd who works for the Navy.
She helps cover up Gibbs' crime though.
True, although given the circumstances that’s a whole discussion of legality vs morality. In his position I might have done the same
Man I had such a crush on her.
Btw ACAB probably doesn't apply to her as she's support (same way the wacky corenor wouldn't count). In real life, imagine calling a social worker employed by the cops a bastard.
Also is NCIS even about cops? And isn't there a whole arc on dealing with internal corruption? Or am I mixing that up with another show.
ACAB can apply to support staff. Especially forensic staff.
Funnily enough, Behind the Bastards just did a couple segments on pseudoscience in forensics.
Not too surprised there. In an ideal world, your support staff are independent, scientific, rigorous, etc., but I very much can imagine someone fudging data to help the cops.
When “expert witness” is a paying job, there’s always someone willing to testify about absolute horseshit to favor one side of a case
The janitors who mop out the drunk tanks are bastards too.
They're the biggest bastards!
It gets blurry, because "defund the cops" isn't the Libertarian wet dream of no police force, but to change the funding for less funding to negative areas (like military APC and so on) and instead hire councillors and such, with the same current budget.
Yes, NCIS is about cops. They're the cops of the Navy and Marines.
I consider those who directly enforce the law to be under the ACAB umbrella. People who provide assistance to them may or may not be.
My sister-in-law moonlights as both an EMT and a firefighter when she's not a cop.
Can I get a schedule so I know when she's a bastard? Like, if she's called off the wildfire line in town to do some traffic management, is she a bastard if she's driving to the site in her blue digs in her personal vehicle, or if she is driving back home with both uniforms in the trunk is she bastard-adjacent? She's normally a really great person, so I don't want to misstep.
I gotta know at what point she fulfills your generalization requirements.
How many cops has she arrested or ticketed? This is a foundational component of the calculation.
I think that kinda depends on how you view morals and ethics. One could claim that a profession doesn't define your morality.......but I doubt many say that about the Nazi or Isis.
Now that's a bit hyperbolic, but it does lend weight to the framework of the argument. Can an individual be "good" and simultaneously be supporting a system or group that is "bad".
Now you can wholly reject the notion that the police are bastards, but that would just be a different debate, and likely a futile one. But, it would still be a stronger argument than your original.
moonlights as both an EMT and a firefighter when she's not a cop.
If my day job is working as a corrupt politician, but I moonlight at a homeless shelter.....does that cancel each other out? If a person wanted for murder stops a mugging, does he get a get out of jail free card?
She's normally a really great person
I don't doubt she's a great person to you and people she cares about, but we're not really talking about personal relationships.
Even when she’s not a cop she is still a cop if that answers your question.
Begs the question if traffic management falls under ACAB, haha. Although, some parking enforcers can fuck all the way off.
I guess technically she works for cops but isn't one. She's a forensic scientist.
Also isn't NCIS specific for the military, like they don't do traffic stops for randos, and plant crystal meth in cars and shoot black people. Right ?
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Don't forget that on occasion, she freelances as the world's foremost expert in cybersecurity.
LOL
This is why I prefer “PEB”: “Policing Enables Bastards”
Helps you not be literally incorrect in case there’s a one-person police department in a five-person town in Norway where everything is gravy.
Signed,
Sometimes too literal me
If someone wants to dive into ACAB, I'm always happy to explain it to them. ACAB works great as a one liner.
I'll even explain it to a cop. The key is to have empathy with the person you're talking to. Individually, cops also have this problem with being bastards and not having power to break the thin blue line. It's just that their "problem" is that they're forced to stand by while someone else suffers the real consequences.
If your partner gets slightly annoyed and curb stomps a homeless guy, what do you do about it? Nothing? You gonna try to report it and get ostracized for it? You can lose your job over something like that.
And that "what do you do?" Covers all the way down to: your partner is less"understanding" of certain ethnicity's car trouble, and cites them (to your eye) more frequently than other ethnicities. It's hard to prove literal wrongdoing, but you stand by all the same
Edit the standby effect is a core part of the "all cops" part of bastards
Thanks. That might apply to 99% of cops/departments.
Somebody here pushed back a few weeks ago with something like “hey I’m in a mountain town and the two guys on our force, who know every resident, are saints.” I also would assume any given quarter, one out of the 800k police in the US is in the process of being fired for e.g. reporting their partner curb stomping a homeless person.
I don’t want to disrespect even one good cop, whether in a remote department or in the midst of being fired. So, I find a shorter one liner that lets me acknowledge POLICING IS FUCKED w/o worrying about gotchas.
PEB!
The mental gymnastics of my brain when irl ACAB but I will stan Olivia Benson until the day I die. TV doesn't count.
It's a lot easier to tolerate the copaganda when they're almost exclusively going after rapists.
The thing I found funny about SVU is someone obviously said "shit, Olivia has been at this for decades, she should be a captain by now," so they made her one but she's still taking calls, the first on the scene, and participating in the investigation.
Arguably the copaganda aspect is Olivia treating victims with respect and listening to them.
maybe the copaganda is in hope real cops do like they do on tv 😂
Dude any of the characters on The Wire are eminently likeable. And they're not even portrayed as morally good!
That's tv for you. Who's going to watch a show where the main characters are asholes? (: my auto correct seems to have issues with this word)
I mean, It's Always Sunny did pretty well.
also:
- The Honeymooners
- All In The Family
- According to Jim
- King of Queens
- Rick and Morty
...to name just a few more
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Would never change her.
A man of impeccable taste
the anti-cop inside of me when i see a goth girl with a badge:
the bastards turns to beautiful rather quick
and all turns to...alt? alt cops?
Are the feds the same as cops? Like, I know they investigate crimes and what not but I don't know that they adhere to that thin blue line bullshit.
Like FBI? Not from what I understand. I deal with a joint task force agent for.....certain activities I do. He's great. He arrested a few people on what I gave him lol.
Yeah or NCIS. My father was NCIS for 35 years. I never thought of him as a cop.
If you like her you might be interested in Forbidden Science.
I may have a magnet if you want one.
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Copeaganda? Seetheuation report: normald
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