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[–] [email protected] 209 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is there a useless red circle community here yet

[–] alyth 141 points 9 months ago (4 children)

How about the useless censoring of asshole

[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What if it was "aააhole"? Guess we'll never know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] YarHarSuperstar 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're both wrong, it's a33hole. The 3s look like little butts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Did snakes trade their limbs for two butts?

TIL

[–] IndiBrony 22 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Self-censoring is just getting stupid nowadays. I can't remember which social media platform it is, but you have people censoring words like k*ll, and I just find it utterly ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

tiktok and instagram shadowban any content that mentions or writes kill, death, suicide, assault, sex, rape, nazi, among others. Apparently, YT will demonetize any video that uses those no-no words, too

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Kill, death, suicide, assault, sex, rape, nazis.

Well, that's my band name, it explains why we're not seeing many likes or follows.! Thanks for the heads up

[–] RegalPotoo 13 points 9 months ago

Tiktok has some super arbitrary automatic filters that look at description + ORC text in the video and will black hole anything that matches certain words.

Like anything, there ends up being folklore about what words trigger the filtering (cos there is no public list) so people end up censoring stuff that might actually be fine, but it's hard to know for sure

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I believe, TikTok does this. Basically, the Algorithm will bury your post, if it detects a bad word, so people are censoring to trick the Algorithm.

I fully expect a return to leet speak or "double-plus ungood"-like language.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

i've already seen tons of people use "unalive", and my favourite is simply censoring things with a deadpan "youtube" added in post.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I remember there being an instance in fediverse that censored profanity, so it's not always self-censorship

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure that word is “armhole”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

I'm just imagining you swollen up from the snake venom trying to examine its asshole while it's still bit onto you like "...those bitches lied to me!"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It kind of is, but it depends on the continent from what I have found. After looking around a bit, it seems that this wouldn't apply in Africa or other places. It's probably partially true, but I couldn't find out exactly what the conditions were.

But...

I am not snake expert, nor am I even snake smart. However, it seems that the best course of action is not to fuck around and find out.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's not even an indicator, there's places where the opposite is true, this is like the myth of the vertical slit pupils meaning they're venomous, there's no actual correlation, this just coincidentally works in areas with few snake species, but you'd have to know that ahead of time, and since there's few species wherever this does work, you might as well just learn what the venomous snakes look like so this is practically completely useless.

This usually happens when somebody learns that in their local area this rule applies, and then assumes it applies everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

This doesn't look local, and it seems reviewed: https://medlineplus.gov/ency/presentations/100138_3.htm

I legitimately want to understand how this information is propagating and why. Your explanation seems correct, but given the above link, there may be more to this problem. Honestly, I am just confused now.

(There is also a huge disclaimer at the bottom of that site, btw.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I can't see the paper on that page, just the image, is there more to it than just the image and the claim?

What snakes have they checked?

edit: I think this is really about identifying rattlesnakes, more than about identifying venomous snakes in general. There's two counterexamples on the "anal scale" page of wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_scale

the undivided end on an elapid venomous snake, and the divided on a colubrid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There isn't much more than the pictures, title and review date/information.

I mentioned in another comment that I am just going to write the reviewer of that page and see what the specifics are and get proper context.

It's not about who is right or wrong now. (You seem to know a lot more about snakes or you are a better rapid-researcher than I, at least.) If I can track this down and get a better review of stuff that is posted as a "government reference", more people could benefit from that.

In the past, I have had great success in reaching out to subject experts, so this should be kinda easy. I am also not shy, so that helps. I know the Denver Zoo (where I live) has a large reptile exhibit and they have close ties to people at the San Diego zoo who also does. It should be just a simple matter of contacting some of those folk with a short summary of this thread. If anything, they would have the "oomph" to get government resources updated. (I may have my zoos mixed up, but I'll get that sorted when I start this little research project.)

Side note: If you want to have an argument about chameleons, I am absolutely the person to have one with. ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd be very interested to see what they say, please keep us posted!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sure thing. I'll tag you in this thread if I get responses.

(In a similar style thread a few months ago, I reached out to a Professor Lucas regarding some old stars that were discovered and dubbed "Old Smokers". We had a tiny debate about the relevance of Betelgeuse and he squashed the debate for us. Feel free to search my profile on it as it's kinda interesting. Same Lemmy community maybe? I can't remember.)

Edit: I just reached out to one of the reptile experts at the Denver Zoo, so let's see how this moves. This process usually takes a few days, so don't expect anything extraordinary, quickly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I legitimately want to understand how this information is propagating and why. Your explanation seems correct, but given the above link, there may be more to this problem. Honestly, I am just confused now.

Its the previous thing of it, potentially, being true somewhere and then also just it sounds like it could be true. TikTok is full of stuff like this, that sounds true enough and is presented from somewhat of an authority angle, with confidence. Too often I get someone to send me a tiktok of some medical fact like: “is this true?”. And 9/10 it is not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Thankfully, I avoid short-form videos like the plague.

The link I shared was from a government site but with limited information attached. It also appeared to be reviewed on a regular basis.

Hell, I am just going to write the creators of that page and get some verification.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I mostly do as well, although I have stumbled on some shorts worth while, so ill click those from time to time. Vsauce only posts shorts these days 😢

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

It holds true enough for North America, but not in other parts of the world, e.g. Africa. So yes, it should have a disclaimer.

This is obviously not true as many of the dangerous snakes in Southern Africa have paired subcaudal scales including the Black Mamba, Green Mamba, Cape Cobra, Vine Snake, Boomslang and Puff Adder to name a few.

Source: https://www.africansnakebiteinstitute.com/news/myths-and-hoaxes/harmless-vs-venomous/

[–] jettrscga 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This seems like a situation where being untrue in just one case makes the fact totally useless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yes? In another comment here, I posted a link from a government site that seemed to have a legitimate review. (That doesn't mean it's fact, of course.)

I am all about getting to the bottom of myths, actually.

[–] BradleyUffner 38 points 9 months ago

Thanks for that circle. I would have totally missed reading the bottom half of the image without it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

I feel like second poster has the right idea because beyond his point most of these little 'rules of thumb' have a list of exceptions bigger than my apartment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is for after you get drunk and sleep with the snake you just met, when you need to decide whether or not to stay until morning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Running will only offend the snake, making it more likely to attack.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This generation of snakes is so sensitive smh.

[–] EdibleFriend 2 points 9 months ago
[–] Etterra 2 points 9 months ago

Snakes: anal plate

Bender: (눈_눈)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

My housemate left a pubity on the bog this morning.