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[-] Zehzin 131 points 1 month ago

Might also be a wakeup call to not bomb embassies my dude

[-] [email protected] 93 points 1 month ago

The US allegedly spent a billion dollars intercepting these missiles.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is all out of air defense and only Germany seems to be sending an extra patriot on the short-term.

As a European, I think the wakeup call is to start taking European security more seriously, since the USA seems to have other priorities.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

I believe we have been sitting comfortably under the protection of NATO for too many years.

The people are accustomed to peace and quiet, spending big on military is generally unpopular with large parts of the population because the USA do it anyway. I think it will need a larger wake up call to make people understand these serene times are ending, probably when russia sets its eyes on the next former possession.

We must protect ourselves, we cannot rely on the states keeping us safe any more, they have become increasingly politically polarized and weary of their global police role, which is also affecting their foreign policies. While Biden and the democrats are probably a reliable ally as before, the ruspublicans with trump have shown that they are not.

[-] Linkerbaan -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is just EU fearmongering to sponsor the Military industrial complex. Russia will not attack a NATO country. That's a lot different than Ukraine.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I didn't say that they would, just that they very well might try to pull the same on another country they believe they have historical claim to, possibly one that would be more strategically threatening to the west. And that we should be prepared for the next time, so we can provide better military aid, quicker, and in competitive quantities.

[-] Linkerbaan 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But they already HAD the weapons to send to Ukraine at the start of the Russian invasion. They just didn't send them. Only recently did Ukraine get their long desired fighter jets.

EU and America just stalled until Russia was able to build up their weapons factories. If they sent Ukraine the weapons they needed at the beginning this would have never gone on for so long.

This is like the Uvalde police waiting outside the school shooting and saying "we need more funding" afterwards.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Russia probably won't attack a NATO country. But this entire world between definitely and probably

[-] Rapidcreek 3 points 1 month ago

Well, let's see the results from the US House this week. Chances are that Ukraine aid will pass.

[-] recapitated 6 points 1 month ago

Seriously. The wake up call is that our friends might do something really dumb and rope us into some absolute BS. Who needs enemies

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

He's arguing for Ukraine, as is his job.

[-] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago

“Ukraine condemns Iran’s attack on Israel using 'Shahed' drones and missiles,” Zelenskyy wrote on X, drawing a parallel between Tehran’s tactics and those employed by Moscow against Ukraine.

Did he also condemn when Israel attacked Iran’s embassy? (Genuine question). Because if not that’s kind of… hypocrite.

But I get it where he’s coming from. Anything to get on the good side of US to get enough support, to be able to keep fighting against Russia.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Ukraine doesn't have the luxury of taking a moral stance right now - your last paragraph is key, to ensure the survival of their nation Zelensky would pay any lip service because it's far less important than stopping the bleeding.

[-] xantoxis 11 points 1 month ago

Why does he have to take a stance at all? Just shut up about Israel and fight your war.

[-] orgrinrt 1 points 1 month ago

I’m guessing the situation being as dire as it is, as reported lately, they are desperate to use any bit of rhetoric or leverage they can. Being silent doesn’t really help securing the support they so acutely need. Maybe this doesn’t either, but at least they remain in the news cycles around the globe, which helps still.

[-] Aceticon 2 points 1 month ago

The Global South will hardly believe these guys are honest and deserving of help when they hear this kind of two-standards talk that judges quite differently Israel from the rest.

The Global South matters to Ukraine because of things like sanctions on Russia and not sending Russia the stuff they need to make more weapons.

Zelensky just lost a really good chance at saying nothing at all and staying clean on this instead of wading into the shit and getting covered in it.

[-] Linkerbaan 50 points 1 month ago

I support Ukraine defending itself because it is being invaded. But sucking up to Genocidal Nazis really isn't the play.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Let's be clear, in the US we're getting a lot of wake up calls. Sometimes multiple per day, but about half the country is perfectly happy hitting the snooze on those.

[-] AnUnusualRelic 4 points 1 month ago

I'm really starting to think that Ukraine could lose while the US is stuck in its political treacle and Europe won't have time (if we suppose we have the will) to restart a semi-war production.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Iran's attack on Israel Saturday night is a "wake-up call" for Washington to get moving on supporting American allies.

"I hope that Iran’s attack on Israel will send a powerful message to Republicans, namely to Mr. Trump — you cannot wait aside any more and think that those are small separate regional conflicts happening somewhere in Europe, Middle East, Asia," Omelyan said in an interview with POLITICO.

He was referring to a major American aid package that has been held up by partisan bickering in the U.S. Congress, as Western support for Ukraine in general has lost momentum in recent months.

Over the past month, Kyiv’s government has urged the U.S. and other Western partners to send more air defenses to Ukraine as Russia bombards the country with missiles and drones.

A wider conflict “could severely impact Ukraine's interests,” Maksym Skrypchenko, president of the Ukrainian Transatlantic Dialogue Center think tank, told POLITICO in an interview.

Western reluctance to supply funding and weapons comes at a time when Moscow's forces are making advances on the battlefield and Russian President Vladimir Putin, fresh from a distorted election victory, is leaping on every opportunity to intensify the Kremlin's assault.


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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

This is america, you’re better off asking “should I grow a beard,” they’ll argue for weeks about it here.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If he had also condemned Israel's attack this statement would have some weight. Now he's making it further obvious that he'll suck whoever's dick is necessary to get more support

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

I mean, if you were the leader of a country that was under active invasion by a enemy with numerical and firepower superiority, would you not do the same? Given the circumstances, he'd arguably be failing his people if he did not pursue whatever avenue to get more aid that he can

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Sure I'm not saying he's doing something wrong. I'm just saying his words are worthless because of the reason you just spelled out.

[-] SpaceNoodle -1 points 1 month ago

You're right, better just capitulate to Putin

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Why would Ukraine condemn an attack on a country that is supplying Russia with drones used to kill Ukrainian men, women and children?

[-] Aceticon -1 points 1 month ago

Sometimes the wiser option is to not take sides and say nothing at all.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This is driving me nuts. Why is it half of the articles they write his name "zelensky" and the other half "zelenskyy"?

[-] MimicJar 4 points 1 month ago

Because his name is "Володимир Зеленський", but neither you nor I know how to pronounce that so it is converted to "Volodymyr Zelenskyy" or a slight variation since there isn't a direct translation or there are multiple translations.

Different news outlets have different rules, so some articles spell it differently.

[-] John_McMurray -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, and Israel's attack on Iran? Oh wait, i just remembered what religion you are. I know it seems rough that the USA loves Israel more than Ukraine, but at least if they keep backing Israel, you'll have somewhere to hide in 3 years.

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