Killing that guy should fix this.
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What do you mean "a whistleblower in the middle of testifying against Boeing's shoddy and unsafe construction practices decides to off himself in a hotel parking lot" isn't normal?
Two bullet wounds to the back of the head is perfectly normal. Happens all the time.
Did you just make that up?
No. Gary Webb, the reporter from the San Jose Mercury News who first broke the story of CIA involvement in the cocaine trade, was found dead with "two gunshot wounds to the head." His death, in 2004, was ruled a suicide.
Oh. I didn't realize you were talking about a completely different event.
The first shot went through his face, and exited at his left cheek. The coroner's staff concluded that the second shot hit an artery.
Not quite the back of the head.
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Wonder how many C-level execs get in trouble? /s
I don't think this ends in beheadings, but there will (hopefully) be significant follow on effects. A threat to consumer confidence in flying is a risk to the entire industry, all Boeing's competitors and the airlines will be screaming for the FAA to get the actions right here...
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It's funny I know someone who's an exec at Boeing Space, which is practically a completely different company and 99% a gov contractor. Let's just say the SLS hassss to work flawlessly because its got "Boeing" written all over its parts, luckily NASA is leading the project so it'll probably go as planned.
That has got to be a depressing job. I can't imagine the pain of being involved in starliner and SLS.
Not sure why you are getting down votes. Nobody wants SLS, even NASA. Congress is proping it up for pork
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Is "dozens" a large amount?
Never-nudes: no
Safety flaws in aircraft production: yes
This reminds me so much of a client I had a while back. Safety inspector found one possible violation and what followed was a scream fest with cussing on the floor. Suddenly a lot more violations were found.
Edit: just in case there is any confusion. If you happen to be running a factory or a construction site the correct response to a a safety inspector telling you about a violation is "you are right, I am sorry, we will come up with a plan to make sure this isnt going to happen moving forward". The incorrect response is pissing the hell out of the safety inspector. However, if you hate the place feel free to get your revenge.
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If Boeing stock drops another $30 or so, I'm going to have to buy some.
I really, really hate capitalism most days but play the game I suppose.
lol yep, this describes my outlook as well. I can play the game, and I’m actually decent at it, but the game is absolutely, categorically awful, and it’d be great for humanity at large if we could all stop playing it.
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Username checks out?
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Are these facilities not regularly audited by a 3rd party to maintain their ISO certifications? The stuff mentioned in the article (key card feeler gauge...WTF!?) would/should have been caught in any routine audit.
They are audited by FAA "compliance officers" who conveniently are employees of the company they are auditing. No conflict of interest at all
Base pay $25,000
Performance related bonus per quarter:
0 issues found: $25,000
1+ issues found: $0
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That's absolutely insane...why is it not a requirement to have audits performed by a third party, or the FAA themselves? This is laughably ridiculous, especially for an industry that claims to be focused on safety and quality.
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That's bullshit. FAA audits some things, but quality audits are third party. Here it's usually SAI global.
Dude. Regulatory agencies are corrupt as heck. There's no incentive to be a good auditor and actually dig deep to find issues and lots of incentive to have no findings. They're all buddies with the management.
We get AS9100 audits routinely. Also, for sub-tiers, we get customer audits.
The key card is fucking hilarious and I am going to give some friends some shit for that. But, no, every process isn't fully audited constantly. Any employee in visual distance should have called that shit out, though. It's not hard to get a feeler gauge stack or even a custom ground go/no go. Though would they know to check their feeler stack with a mic? Not likely if they think using a key card is reasonable.
Why do boeing planes sound like Linux file permissions?
Edit: typo
737 is a very unusual file permission. But IIRC it actually works as intended. The group that owns the file can't read it but can write and execute, everyone else can. However I suspect you can probably figure out a way to drop the relevant group?
Aah, the famous hotel-key-card feeler gauge! 🥹
I've used my badge before, but not for production processes. It's more of a 'damn that gap is big' thing.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A six-week audit by the Federal Aviation Administration of Boeing’s production of the 737 Max jet found dozens of problems throughout the manufacturing process at the plane maker and one of its key suppliers, according to a slide presentation reviewed by The New York Times.
Last week, the agency announced that the audit had found “multiple instances” in which Boeing and the supplier, Spirit AeroSystems, failed to comply with quality-control requirements, though it did not provide specifics about the findings.
Since the Alaska Airlines episode, Boeing has come under intense scrutiny over its quality-control practices, and the findings add to the body of evidence about manufacturing lapses at the company.
At one point during the examination, the air-safety agency observed mechanics at Spirit using a hotel key card to check a door seal, according to a document that describes some of the findings.
Asked about the appropriateness of using a hotel key card or Dawn soap in those situations, a spokesman for Spirit, Joe Buccino, said the company was “reviewing all identified nonconformities for corrective action.”
The audit raised concerns about the Spirit technicians who carried out the work and found that the company “failed to determine the knowledge necessary for the operation of its processes.”
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