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Trump-appointed judge gives a 'break' to Jan. 6 rioter who wants to be a police officer
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File this under examples of why there are no good apples.
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“You don’t have anything to fear from the police if you’re not doing anything wrong” Really? REALLY? They are literal terrorists. I give you, exhibit….what do we do when we run out of letters anyway?
Also: deputy gangs are a thing. Literal gangs within the police force.
Yep, great example of a department with an extensive history of this is the ~~LAPD~~ Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, which was the subject of this fifteen part long form investigation that was also made into a podcast
And that's just one example and one we know about
e; updated podcast link to a source the author provided
e2; County Sheriff's Department, not city police like I'd initially misremembered
Not that there aren't gangs in the LAPD this investigation is specifically about the Los Angeles sheriff's department.
Ah right, I always want to forget that detail for some reason, thank you for catching that
Exhibit ACAB.
Well played.
There is an in-group that the law protects, but does not bind. There is an out-group that the law binds, but does not protect.
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I already know the answer, but how does this not completely disqualify him from being a cop?
And why would other cops want to work with a guy who was part of a group that attacked cops?
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses.
cause they see him as a martyr for the cause.
WHEN (not if) these right wing fucks try to over throw the government again, we will only have ourselves to blame for it.
These traitors should have been given the harshest penalties possible - put them up as an example to deter others. Instead, example after example, these POS are given slaps on the wrist. We are essentially encouraging others to try again because the general public has forgotten about this event, the media never took this as seriously as they should have, and various government agencies not escalating the punishments being levied.
They'll all wear their prison sentences as badges in 5 years. You're looking at future senate candidates.
It would have been a massive difference if those fucks were getting 10 or 20 or more sentences.
we will only have ourselves to blame
"We" who? I didn't vote for any of these dicks.
But did you vote against them?
It's reconstruction all over again.
Longer sentences don't deter crimes. What deters crimes is certainty of being caught. We need to get them ALL, even if it's for a little bit.
Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.
Cooper went on to say that Bensch hopes to start a career in law enforcement, adding that it's "not beyond the realm of possibility" that he could do so even with his misdemeanors. Bensch is currently working for a pool cleaning company, and the conditions of his sentence will allow him to leave his home for employment during his 60 days of home detention.
So he's not even actually being detained at home for any length of time. He just has to stay at home after work and on weekends for a few weeks. The horror.
He's getting a head-start in being above the law.
He's got what pro-capitalists call "moxy"
Hobbies include: burning crosses, books, and capitols /s
Huh. A MAGAt rioter that wanted to undermine due process and civil rights also wants to be a cop.
Whoda thunk?
Seriously, fuck this. Maybe we all need to become cops.
This is the chicken and egg problem. Too many of the people who would make very good cops do not wish to become cops because of the racist and abusive people on the force. I wouldn't be at all shocked if there's also a factor of the job itself grinding down it's workers and leading some to become racist and abusive as well
You make a great point. My cousin was a good cop. That's why he quit after a few years and became an insurance salesman.
From what I understand, when people that are good become cops and try to hold fellow cops to the same standards, they end up getting hung out to dry and forced out.
Check this case out: https://archive.is/2jzIx, and then consider that this kind of thing is only slightly extreme.
Cops that stay in enable the shitty cops or become shitty themselves, good cops get forced out. The entire system is rotten, and needs to be entirely reformed. I think that it probably needs to be handled in a way similar to the way that Reagan handled striking air traffic controllers: fire every single cop, use National Guard MPs on a temporary basis while entirely new cops are recruited and trained, and have iron-clad oversight and standards established before the new cops take their positions.
openly corrupt republican traitor filth
Looking at the actual article, it was more that the judge saw he was a dumb kid who wasn't old enough to go to college yet. We should be encouraging judges not setentising people under 21 to adult sentences, since the Republicans have been pushing 16 year old life sentences since "they look old".
I'm definitely biased and I can't read the article (SSL issue on archive.is?) but I think that attending a deadly political coup should probably exempt you from being in law enforcement, no matter how old you were.
Huh, yeah looks like archive.is is totally down right now
Alternate mirror - https://web.archive.org/web/20230710180951/https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-appointed-judge-gives-break-jan-6-rioter-sentencing-rcna93170
Original link - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-appointed-judge-gives-break-jan-6-rioter-sentencing-rcna93170
We already do give kids reduced sentences, at least white kids like that rapist Brock Turner.
Maybe we could advocate for reduced sentences for minorities convicted of petty crimes instead of people who actively tried to overthrow the government.
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He knew exactly what he was doing. There should be no leniency for people who commit crimes knowing full well what they're doing.
That's how you end up in a society where kids are cool with killing teachers over bad grades.
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