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Alabama’s supreme court ruling that frozen embryos are ‘children’ is a chilling example of the Republican party’s extremism

In a case centering on wrongful-death claims for frozen embryos that were accidentally destroyed at a fertility clinic, the Alabama supreme court ruled last Friday that frozen embryos are “children” under state law.

As a result, several Alabama in-vitro fertilization (IVF) clinics are ceasing services, afraid to store or destroy any embryos.

The underlying issue is whether government can interfere in the most intimate aspects of people’s lives – not only barring people from obtaining IVF services but also forbidding them from entering into gay marriage, utilizing contraception, having out-of-wedlock births, ending their pregnancies, changing their genders, checking out whatever books they want from the library, and worshipping God in whatever way they wish (or not worshipping at all).

All these private freedoms are under increasing assault from Republican legislators and judges who want to impose their own morality on everyone else. Republicans are increasingly at war with America’s basic separation of church and state.

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[–] teamevil 85 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can someone please explain how this is any different from a county imposing Sharia law‽ Pretty sure the right is vehemently against that occuring. Why are their morals different, in the end it's trying to control through religion.

[–] rdyoung 54 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's exactly the same. But because it's their god it's somehow different, but it's not.

[–] brygphilomena 29 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Its the same God, though, isn't it? Just their book?

[–] rdyoung 11 points 9 months ago

From my understanding of the various religions and offshoots, yes, it is in theory the same God. They also feature the same saints and holy figures across the 3 big ones though in the Quran Jesus is a saint or similar but not our savior or the son of God and God in the same package, etc.

[–] blazeknave 3 points 9 months ago

Have you seen the south Park multiparter about the atheist otters?

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[–] superduperenigma 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well you see, Sharia Law is imposed by brown people, so God hates it. Jesus was white, American, and a registered Republican, so God loves the brand of extremist Christian theocracy the GOP will bring upon us.

/s

[–] blazeknave 4 points 9 months ago

Don't forget 2A and supply side

[–] Zombiepirate 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nice that people are starting to notice, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Better late to the party than a no show I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

When was the last time people were in doubt about that? Conservatives have been trying to pass laws that affect everyone based on their confused religious moralism for decades. Things like “blue laws” (banning sales of alcohol on Sunday) are connected to Christians trying to impose their religious ideas on people. Or the idea that someone’s testimony or oath can’t be believed if not sworn on a bible.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Did you ever see that one politician who swore up and down that America is a Christian nation because you swear into office on the Bible? Complete deer in headlights look when the interviewer explained that the Bible was an option, not a requirement.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Media keeps telling me how moderate Haley is.

[–] Maggoty 3 points 9 months ago

And always trying to rationalize it as not religious. Fucking maddening.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The people that want a theocracy want it based on their religion and their interpretation of that religion. This way they can present what they want as what god wants and that gives them complete control over you since you have to obey god.

[–] lonerangers1 11 points 9 months ago

Hail Satan!

[–] Boddhisatva 8 points 9 months ago

They should be careful what they wish for. There are estimated to be at least 200 Christian Denominations in the USA and 45,000 globally. If they ever succeeded in making this nation a theocracy, it would be a bloodbath in under a week as each denomination tries to make all the others adhere to their own interpretations.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There was a speaker at CPAC who just said that they’re trying to make the US a Christian nation by force, even if it means abandoning democracy.

[–] thisorthatorwhatever 5 points 9 months ago

Everything someone talks a about a Christian nations, all I can think of is Emo Philips' joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNX_XiuA78

[–] vegeta 27 points 9 months ago

Talibangelicals

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In a concurring opinion in last week’s Alabama supreme court decision, Alabama’s chief justice, Tom Parker, invoked the prophet Jeremiah, Genesis and the writings of 16th- and 17th-century theologians. “Human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God,” he wrote. “Even before birth, all human beings have the image of God, and their lives cannot be destroyed without effacing his glory.”

Before joining the court, Parker was a close aide and ally of Roy Moore, the former chief justice of the Alabama supreme court who was twice removed from the job – first for dismissing a federal court order to remove an enormous granite monument of the Ten Commandments he had installed in the state judicial building, and then for ordering state judges to defy the US supreme court’s decision affirming gay marriage.

Excuse me wtf

[–] BradleyUffner 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How do they square that with supporting the death penalty?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Dogmatic ideology holding contradictory positions is a feature, not a bug. Break down whatever instincts for logic might exist, and people will believe anything.

[–] Sterile_Technique 17 points 9 months ago

Alabama’s supreme court ruling that frozen embryos are ‘children’ is a chilling example of the Republican party’s extremism

frozen embryos

chilling example

Nice.

[–] foggy 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Nah, no one could’ve seen it coming. There’s nothing we can do it, it’s caught everyone completely off guard.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They don't just want a theocracy; they're well on their way to making it happen.

[–] BradleyUffner 4 points 9 months ago

They want a dictatorship. They are just using theocracy as a stepping stone.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

American Taliban, or a fascist theocracy. They believe that inequality based on some mythological identity is not just acceptable but morally correct.

[–] crystalmerchant 14 points 9 months ago

The Republican party ~~wants to turn~~ is actively turning America.into a theocracy

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They're using religion as their path to dictatorship. Really only Catholics were in open opposition to abortion until conservatives made it an evangelical talking point. They found a way to control women and then found the audience to market it to. Now they caught that car and have to find another target for their pack of dogs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Always has been.

[–] DrSleepless 9 points 9 months ago
[–] NutWrench 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Republicans also want to bring back 19th century Company Towns. Then, they will fill them with obedient workers, who they can pay as little as they want and abuse as much as they like.

This is why they overturned Roe vs Wade and they're going after contraception next. They need citizen's to breed.

[–] ripcord 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They need citizen's what to breed?

[–] NutWrench 5 points 9 months ago

Their apostrophes!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Everything is always doom and gloom and fire and brimstone with Republicans. Apparently that appeals to a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Don't worry, I'm sure that theocracy will merely be a road bump to a leftist Utopia.

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