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[–] [email protected] 271 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every big web site in 2024 looks like the sites people warned you not to visit in the 90s

[–] betterdeadthanreddit 99 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't invent the torment nexus.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good news! We've invented the torment nexus

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Captcha buster is taking care of the captchas now at least. A robot that proves I'm not a robot. Is this the singularity yet?

[–] RGB3x3 88 points 9 months ago

No, but it's definitely a boring dystopia.

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[–] plofi 115 points 9 months ago (8 children)

In europe we have a "reject all" button for cookies and it's fantastic

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Except on news websites that only give you the choice between "subscribe for X€" and "read for free (accept all)". So annoying. Still no idea why that's legal.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

That's not at all legal under GDPR. Nor is having deny all be harder than accept. As is tradition however companies don't give half a shit until fines start happening.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (19 children)
[–] IndiBrony 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Use I STILL don't care about cookies. That one is owned by Avast nowadays and accepts all cookies which is clearly not what people want.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There is no such thing as an unintrusive advertisement.

[–] Crashumbc 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I didn't mind the static ones (within reason), websites need to pay their rent. And not everything can sell something.

But even those have tracking and gross injection code now.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Even emails have tracking pixels at this point. Like, I route all of my email through a client that blocks all outside media without asking lol

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

In the long ago if a site needed advertising it was a small banner at the top of the page, and often hosted by the site itself with gasp an actual relationship with the advertisers or sponsors.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (2 children)

All that just to find that the page doesn’t have the info you needed anyway.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But made its best to make you stay on the page over the 12 second watermark or some SEO bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Internet in 2024 (for me):

  1. Service unavailable in your country (VPN)
  2. Confirm you're a human (VPN)
  3. Blank page (noscript)
  4. Obscure error (fingerprint / cookie blocking)
  5. Page not found (https required)

The percentage of websites that "just work" with privacy measures in place is depressingly small.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

you have to put in extra work just to make your website not work with privacy measures. like you have to put in the work to use some bloated javascript framework that doesn't work with noscript instead of just sticking with plain html and css, which would work. on top of that, i've encountered way too many big websites that don't even have a noscript tag so all you see is a ghost layout or a blank page.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's something I would disagree with though. "Sticking with plain HTML and CSS" is way more work, and often has significantly less functionality, than building a website with a framework.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (9 children)

How is this a shitpost? It's just true.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Most of all, I was sick of the captcha from cloudflare.
On some sites, there was endless checking and it was impossible to view the content of the site.

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[–] Vrtrx 46 points 9 months ago (8 children)

The cookies being pre selected is illegal in the EU. Although I've seen sites that don't care and still enable them by default

[–] Dicska 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The ones I've seen disable the 'consent' bits by default, but then there's 'vendor preferences' where 'legitimate interest' is automatically ON in 58 places (I'm not exaggerating; I have counted it) and you have to manually off all of them.

When you click the question mark at 'legitimate interest', all it says is some vendors are not asking for your consent to use your data but collect it based on their legitimate interest.

It's infinitely vague and it has the vibe of 'I'm not going to ask for it, I will just take it and I will use it for whatever I want anyway'.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (7 children)

We're going to move very quickly to a DRM supported web model. There won't be captchas, but you will require a locked down device (with no ad blocker) to access the content

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's why everything is an App now, and every website tells you "it's better in the app". In the app they have full controll over your device and can access much more data points, while the website is controlled on the users site and might have AdBlockers and other security features enabled, potentially hurting their ad revenue and data they can sell. From a developers perspective it's a nightmare to develop and maintain website, android and Mac os app side by side. Just having one good responsive website is cheaper, easier to maintain and gives you less headache with app store restrictions, reviews, device incompatibility etc.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Hear me out: part of me welcomes that.

Currently, most websites are awful to browse, and a few are not. If we switch to a world where most are inaccessible to me, and a few are nice, then I'll spend less time being frustrated by cookie popups and the like.

Like, if a site's going to be terrible, I almost prefer it just not let me in at all.

As an example, I used to click the occasional Twitter link. Now that I can't see comments, I refuse, and life is a bit improved.

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[–] Guajojo 16 points 9 months ago

F U C K. T H A T

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[–] Gekoloniseerd 32 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I use the addon ‘consent o-matic’ it automatically rejects all the cookies and it almost always works. Great addon to add to your (Firefox) browser.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

quality meme, shitty reality

[–] circuitfarmer 26 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I encountered the mother of all captchas the other day: it had me picking a three-dimensional room diagram among six of them, matching it to a 2d top-down view of the room. It was way more time consuming than a typical captcha, and I had to do the same task five or six times.

I think we'll see harder and harder captchas as AI models get better and better. Eventually it won't be a realistic option since it just costs humans time and the convenience of whatever service they're trying to use.

[–] EuroNutellaMan 16 points 9 months ago

I'd wager AI models have an easier time solving those captchas than humans.

I'd also wager captchas' only real purpose is to train AI models

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (5 children)

We need to develop more alternatives like federated social media or even completely make web services p2p. And then have them somewhat democratically controlled, or easily able to migrate to alternatives without cost of loosing network effects.

Especially something like amazon / ebay / paypal / ali would be awesome to replace with a "public utility" federated version. They tax so much of the sales and it all goes to psycho billionaires.

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[–] Kase 23 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Hey, you know the captchas with the little box of warped letters/numbers you're supposed to look at and type it correctly?

Is anyone else, uh, terrible at those? I've literally given up on visiting websites before because I couldn't get the stupid thing right after a dozen tries. Wtf.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just visited a site and selected the option to reject cookies. After doing this, the dialogue box would not go away, while a loading screen appeared. It was loading my new cookie preferences. This loading screen got stuck at 80% and hung there for almost a full minute.

[–] Buck 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a specific company that creates a cookie consent manager that way, and a lot of websites use it. The progress bar is entirely faked; you're being made to wait for nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Disable JavaScript and reload

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Please enable JavaScript to visit our site.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Leave site and never return.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Real reason why people just stay on the same four big-data-harvesting sites now.

[–] wolfpack86 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

For the motorcycles and bikes... Are we supposed to add the squares with the humans riding it? Are they part of the system?

Which gives me the fewest goddamn captchas?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Website any% speedrun (no glitch)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is there such a thing as an ad sequesterer? Not necessarily blocking it, but just shoving it in some other window I can’t see, and then letting it play through. Then YouTube gets its ad played, and I don’t have to see it—win/win.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://adnauseam.io/

You're looking for something like this. It still blocks the ad from your view but in the background it still loads/plays the ad, and sometimes even clicks it to spend their precious ad budget.

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