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I saw this on Mastodon posted by @[email protected] and figured that it was appropriate for this community and absolutely not controversial in any way shape or form.

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[–] CodexArcanum 33 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Option 3: Upsetting all of the English speaking world by pronouncing it to rhyme with pony.

[–] CodexArcanum 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have to also admit, as an American i imagine a scone as a little triangular cake, so I laughed looking at those Popeye's biscuits floating in the corner of the image.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Popeye's biscuits with raisins in them.

[–] khannie 3 points 5 months ago

How about "one"? Scwun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

äs a svid aj shör låv mi såm skånes

[–] teft 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As an American I wasn't even aware there was a divide in the pronunciation of scone. I think pretty much all Americans pronounce it to rhyme with cone.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

As it should be!

Runs away from the incoming ire of the 'gone' crew.

[–] sanguinepar 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Silic0n_Alph4 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s too late, he s’gone.

[–] sanguinepar 3 points 5 months ago
[–] ilovesatan 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Geobloke 1 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ex pat in the deep south: I have had both.

They are similar but different enough you cannot interchangeably use them.

"ok what's it like then"

eating a slightly different bread product

"different how"

in flavour and texture

[–] ilovesatan 1 points 5 months ago

Well now I need to try me a scone.

[–] khannie 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I had biscuits and gravy on my last trip to the States. Scones are very different. Much fluffier. Mostly the scones I've had have fruit in them too.

Edit: our gravy is nothing like the one I got served either

[–] ilovesatan 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The biscuits you had were fluffier. I promise we have biscuits that are 'scone-like'.

[–] khannie 1 points 5 months ago

Fair enough. I was quite happy with the biscuits I had. They fit the gravy nicely as a more savoury dish. I wouldn't have liked scones with what I had.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh christ here we go again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Just be thankful I didn't open up a can of bread rolls/buns/baps.

[–] khannie 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If I'm reading this correctly it's saying about 1 in 4 people in Dublin pronounce it like "gone" and that is absolutely false. Never once have I ever heard that pronunciation here.

CONE GANG!

edit: I'd be curious how other English speaking countries pronounce it.

Reading through replies it seems Americans are cone heads while Aussies are gone. Fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The bottom of that map is more orange than I was expecting. I'm surprised at the blue patch north of England. I always associated cone scone with the posher south.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Now you've gone and started the "where counts as north?" thing too! You absolute monster.

[–] OscarCunningham 5 points 5 months ago

The UK quite often sees words switch around in how posh they are. This is because most people want to sound posher than they really are, while the actual posh people have nothing to prove and want to seem down-to-earth. See U and non-U English.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Saw it claimed somewhere that Queen Liz 2 said it rhyming with “gone”, so it’s not really class. According to the map Bradford, where I grew up, is an absolute fault-line on this issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I'm thinking that in Hull they surely say "scurn", so maybe they say "curn" for cone?

[–] RealFknNito 7 points 5 months ago

Thought this looked familiar

[–] GadgetGirlOz 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is interesting. In Australia we only ever pronounce it rhyming with gone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say it rhymes with gone, but it's very close. For me, "gone" would be /gɒːn/, while "scone" would be /skɒn/. The difference being the length of the vowel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

They’re the same vowel sound in my accent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are some pretty sharp divisions in Ireland it seems. Bonniconlon looks to be holding out as a 'gone' stronghold in the top corner of Mayo for example.

[–] MycelialMass 5 points 5 months ago

Its well known that The Troubles and separation of North Ireland were caused by the scone debate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

That picture looks like an American biscuit. We put white sausage gravy on top and call it "biscuits and gravy."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Outside of America, a "biscuit" is what you guys call a "cookie".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

At least you all agree on how to pronounce it, though. You (presumably) have no idea how deep the divide goes, UK-wise!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Which is pretty close to what they are! Although iirc biscuits are somewhat more crumbly

[–] Squizzy 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That sounds horrendous, white sausage gravy alone sounds like boiled sausages juice.

[–] khannie 4 points 5 months ago

It's actually really good, just nothing like you'd expect from the name. I was curious about it and ordered it on a trip there. Very heavy meal but very tasty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

"boiled sausage juice" 🤤🤤

[–] johannesvanderwhales 1 points 5 months ago

Sausage gravy uses pan drippings from cooking ground breakfast sausage to create a bechamel sauce. It's usually then flavored with black pepper. Breakfast sausage is also often flavored with sage. From what I understand American-style breakfast sausage isn't really a thing in the UK so it might be difficult to picture the flavor profile.

[–] prime_number_314159 6 points 5 months ago

Where's my underappreciated, but definitely real "cone rhymes with gone, but not with scone" gang?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

And there's the place, Scone.

[–] sanguinepar 4 points 5 months ago

Quite interesting that there's a north/south split in Yorkshire. Anyone from there able to confirm if that's a divide that applies in other less important fields than scones?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If gone and cone ryme how do you process this map?

[–] Bassman1805 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In what dialect do those two words rhyme?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Rural mid Atlantic.

[–] sanguinepar 1 points 5 months ago

Never had an ice cream conn?

[–] gmtom 1 points 4 months ago

I grew up in the green section in North East England and can assure you no one says it like "cone"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Fascinating.

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