These type of charts annoy me because they have redundant information. They're symmetric along the diagonal.
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Particularly when they don't have to be. These relationships are rarely symmetric.
Is there a better way to present the data with less redundancy?
Typically you'd just present it as the upper diagonal of the matrix.
Then you can't just scan a row and get the whole info about a country. Images are rectangular anyways
You can if you pick a column. What i would do is put the name of each group in the gray box which is currently just where each group intersects with themselves. Then delete everything above that so it's just a triangle.
Why tho? It makes parsing at least somewhat harder and you don't save any space
ISIS over here beefing with everyone, ride or die for the caliphate inshallah
The feeling is mutual.
US and Iraq get along? Is that because we blew all the people there that didn't like us to oblivion?
The u.s. also still holds all their foreign currency reserves, so they're kinda forced to be friendly if they want to keep their economy a float.
probably from 10 years ok
Isis doesn't have any friends to play with
I'm curious how the US and Turkiye are yellow but there's literally military bases in Turkiye that house US troops
Yellow is labeled "It's complicated" that kinda sounds like an it's complicated relationship to me lmao
Yellow means it's complicated, so... It's complicated.
Positive relations are important to their national defense, and as a NATO member they're way more likely to let in US bases, and historically have because of fear of the USSR.
Recently, they've been interested in close relations with Russia since they're a nearby economic power, and the US hasn't been entirely thrilled with that.
They also want close relations with Ukraine, and so have been pushing for a peace with expediency as the goal, which would result in Ukraine losing land. The US is less interested in brokering peace at any cost, and so there's conflicting objectives.
The US supported Turkish operations in Syria, but has recently taken the stance that those operations pose the risk of destabilizing things further. Similarly for Iraqi operations.
Above all else, the US is committed to liking the positioning of that base in Turkey for the regional positioning it gives them, and Turkey is supremely appreciative of US assets making any attack on them hilariously unlikely.
Each party gets something out of the relationship, but it's far from a given that they'll be working towards the same goals outside of "the US should be positioned to protect Turkey".
Turkey has a complicated political history but to color with a very broad brush, they were transformed from an Islamic state and former empire to a secular western aligned democracy by Kemal Ataturk. The Turkish army was politically aligned with Ataturk and would intervene to prevent Turkey from backsliding into an Islamic state. The current government executed a slow-rolling coup replacing military commanders and instituted a largely Islamic autocracy which for historical reasons remains a member of NATO but which would probably not join the alliance if the decision were to be made again today. They’re not a powerful nation militarily or economically by European standards, but seek to play both sides of international conflicts to magnify their influence. They cannot walk away from NATO without risking an existential threat from the military and economic fallout, but will get away with what they can.
At a Turk!
Turkey is the wild card of politics rn. Even though they aren’t doing anytjing big and explosive like Israel or Russia they aren’t being predictable. Since the US is favoring Greece in the border skirmish Turkey is being unpredictable.
ISIS is the kid that takes their toys and goes home.
Looking like a goddam pokemon type match-up chart
I'm not much of a Pokemon player, but I saw the chart in Arceus the other day and I was like "Jesus fuck. It used to just be Rock Paper Scissors. Now you need a freaking spreadsheet!"
It was never rock paper scissors. The three starters are an analogue of rock, paper, scissors. But the other types have much more complicated relationships even in the first release of pokemon in the 90s.
They've added 3 (or 4) types in the past 28(?) years. The chart didn't get that much more complex... That's nothing for a such an old game...
ISIS doing sick combos
ISIS believes (incorrectly) you can force the Islamic State, much the way Christian Nationalists think you can purge the nonbelievers. And then the heretics. And then the sinners. And then the secret sinners. And then the insufficiently pious.
The path to a global ideological state is to feed the poor and the radicals. A few years of good living and no-one wants to fight anymore.
Haha, it looks like somebody's just mashing light punch
A better ordering of the columns would make this easier to read..
I kinda expect some asymmetry somewhere. Like Jordan is a big fan of Qatar, but Qatar totally wants to destroy Jordan.
i remember seeing this exact chart 10-ish years ago. how accurate is this info now?
Partly accurate.
Afaik for Turkey all red items should be yellow except AlQaeda and ISIS.
im noticing a strong negative correlation, roughly where x=-y
I think all that heat and sand is getting to my brothers in the middle east
Wouldn't a graph be easier to read?
are the U.S. and Saudi Arabia still friends? I have a cute ex there and I worry about him a lot
I'm sure he's doing fine in the US, though the news likes to imply they're headed for a second civil war almost daily.
Nono, other way around. I'm in the US, he's in Saudi. Sorry for the confusion!
Since when is the US in the middle east? Have these people ever seen a map?