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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Outsourced IT provider here:

90% of businesses have basically zero IT security. Leaked passwords in regular use and no process or verification for password resets. As soon as someone complains that 2FA or password rotation is difficult it gets dropped. Virtually all company data is stored on USB keys, plaintext hard drives and on staff's personal home devices.

The reason they're not constantly having their data stolen is because no-one cares about the companies either.

[–] Cryophilia 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't password rotation a horrible practice because it makes people use passwords like "MyNewPassword15" since it's the 15th password reset they've been forced to do?

[–] notatoad 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

password rotation is generally not considered a "best practice" but not doing something because it's not a best practice is only a good strategy if you're actually going to follow the best practices. password rotation is less effective than a good password manager and long randomly generated passwords that are unique to each site. requiring passwords be rotated can be an impediment to using strong unique passwords, which is why it's not a good practice.

but a freshly rotated "MyNewPassword15" is a million times better than your password being "password", or being the same thing you use on every sketchy website whose database has been breached a dozen times.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Password rotation for your "emergency" system account (the one that shouldn't be root) still needs to be rotated every time someone with access leaves or changes job roles.

[–] uranibaba 2 points 1 year ago

Any password someone who leaves had access to should be roasted, no?

[–] FlyingSquid 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have a custom backend website I have to log in for my work. You don't have to use a password, just an email address. The only "security" is it's on a weird URL that people wouldn't likely know if they weren't given it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

And yet so, so common

[–] snausagesinablanket 21 points 1 year ago

Not to leave out the Active Directory Admin password that gives God mode and everyone has it.

[–] Aux 4 points 1 year ago

Password rotation is very insecure. No one should be doing that. I also hate when companies set maximum length for a password, like 12-16 characters. Bitch, my 32 character password is much more secure!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I believe Microsoft’s 365 platform helps a lot in that matter. Even without any security strategy or custom configuration M365 offers a better security level than those businesses could ever reach themselves.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which might explain why medium sized companies that are not completely clean-nosed are happy to run Windows 10 with all its spyware elements running unregulated.

It's also terrible in the government sector, which is why the NSA's huge database on US internet traffic is accessible to rivals like Russia, Iran and China.

[–] 0ddysseus 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah cool. Got a source on that NSA comment there do you?