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Who the fuck even is this guy? No vetting process, no confirmation hearings, nothing.
And he's just given this kind of power?
This country is so very, very fucked. Thanks to donvict's base and a huge assist from the apathetic and the "bothsides" idiots.
Reminder that he’s not even American. He’s a South African billionaire with no allegiance to any one country. He’s a carpet bagger
Would you say the same thing about a naturalized immigrant doing things you agree with?
He's a citizen whose status allow him to take pretty much any government related position except for being president, leave the immigration bit out of it as it's the same rhetoric being used by the far right to justify what they're doing to some naturalized citizens right now and it's a very dangerous slippery slope you're on.
Funny enough he's an illegal immigrant :)
Was, but yes, that's an issue on its own, but he ended up becoming a US citizen in the end, attacking him on his migrant background is very touchy.
It‘s Fine. He‘s Rich and allowed to lie on his citizenship application. Everyone else would still lose it in retrospect. But he’s just a poor white cisguy, give him a break
I think it's fair considering they're stating Elon has no allegiance to any country. He's a billionaire. He's the billionaire. He's beyond borders. This is a game for him.
I think it's also important to highlight his South African origins. South Africa is a famously racist country which his family was/is part of the elite of. His Nazism and white supremacist views didn't materialise from nowhere.
They're on a slippery slope, yes, but they've not slid down it. Their words were reasonable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpetbagger
It's the first phrase that's problematic.
"He's not even American."
By this logic they should be saying the same thing about anyone who's a naturalized citizen and should be against them being involved in the government, only those born in the USA should be able to hold higher positions in the government based on that.
He wasn't "given it". He stole it and nobody with the power to stop him is trying to stop him.
he was given it by the elected president. which i think is so much worse
Except the president doesn't have that authority. Congress could push back, but it's currently populated by sycophants.
no one has stopped him so far
2 people tried.
It's exactly how Hitler got power.
And a lot of people's reactions to Trump/Elon getting power were also remarkably similar to a lot of people's reactions to Hitler getting power back then, especially people who were already in positions of power
Only on a very superficial level. Very different situation under a very different constitution.
'Both got appointed by the president' is comparing apples and oranges. That is in no way meant as a defense for Musk, but the argument is very weak and I'd prefer if we criticized him from a more solid basis.
While the nuance is appreciated, I think it's a trajectory worth considering.
When Trump is no longer able to even pretend to lead, in his circle there are not any obvious successors that seem likely to have the same capacity to steamroll the GOP into whatever the hell they like while also being a legal candidate for president. However if he uses his transient status to overly enable Musk to lead in ways he is legally forbidden to do so, then it elevates the risk of Musk as the heir apparent to the Trump problem.
The other side wouldn't care to pick nits. Personally, I'd say just allow it and perhaps try to come up with better, juicier stuff.
Most Americans are sleepwalking. As much as they're going to hurt other countries they're going to hurt Americans the most.
Well, so there's some justice
I think as long as Americans have something to lose, they will not revolt 😞🤙
I think a lot of people still, even now, believe that the statement "this country is fucked" is a bit overboard.
They don't grasp that the writing is on the wall. America literally is fucked. The point of no return has already been passed. What you're witnessing is the wholesale sellout of America to the wealthy, who will remain in power indefinitely, and a system way too far gone to do anything about it.
It's over.
Next stop, Russia 2.0. In the end, we really weren't any better than them.