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[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The republicans are bringing back fascism but they are at least doing awful things their constituents want.

I disagree with these things, but they deliver on their stupid backwards promises.

I’ve voted for the democrats for my entire adult life, the very first vote I cast was for John Kerry.

Here’s the thing though. Are you a liberal, you wonder why the party is hated, have you ever seen Last Week Tonight?

Jon Oliver gets on tv every week and talks about some horrible problem that started with Reagan or Nixon and has just been going strong ever since. There are so many of these. And which ones can I look at and go “well the democrats sure did fix X when they finally had the levers of power”

I can’t think of a single thing. The most important project they’ve undertaken was the ACA, and I don’t know if entrenching health insurance companies permanently and legally into the fabric of our nation is all that much to celebrate.

Do they do some good things from time to time, sure. You can point to a policy here or there that are nice. But it’s a party of not-even-half-measures.

Can we have single payer? No How about a public option? No What can you do? Romneycare… great

Can we have immigration reform? No What can you do? DACA and that’ll be rescinded the moment we lose power.

Can we reign in the banking sector? Nah

Can we close Guantanamo? Too difficult

Can we enshrine the right to abortion in law? No, but we will ask justices to pinky swear… oh they just removed it, nevermind

Can we do anything to help the common man? Let me check with the donors, nah they don’t like that, but if you like some tweets about how trump is bad, I’ve got those for you.

A party that refuses to use the power you give it is not much use.

And before you type up your essay about how Ackshually! There was only one weekend in 2009 when they could have passed any kind of legislation at all. Fucking stuff it. Then they should have sat there all goddamn weekend and passed bill after bill fixing this shit box nation. Their lack of any kind of foresight and planning and doing anything but building a better and better donation collection machine has led us to fascism.

They can collect a billion goddamn dollars but have to text me to see if I can give them just $27 more dollars before they can pass a bill. We need a new party to represent the people.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can’t think of a single thing. The most important project they’ve undertaken was the ACA, and I don’t know if entrenching health insurance companies permanently and legally into the fabric of our nation is all that much to celebrate.

Yes, and don't forget that the ACA was modeled after "Romneycare" that Mitt Romney had implemented in MA, which in turn was modeled after a plan from the Heritage foundation. In other words, the ACA was essentially a Republican/conservative plan. The main reason Republicans hate is that it was Obama who implemented it nationwide.

[–] TipRing 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Single payer was killed by Lieberman, Hillary Clinton actually pushed for it. When it became clear they didn't have the votes in the Senate they tacked to an idea implemented by Romney after some Republicans hinted they would support it - none did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Leiberman, the rotating villain during that cycle.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yet another case of Democrats being Charlie Brown kicking a football held by Republicans

[–] TipRing 1 points 10 hours ago

Obamas first term was basically all that, the Republicans ran roughshod over him because of his apparent naivete.

[–] Ensign_Crab 5 points 14 hours ago

Single payer was killed by Lieberman

Let's not pretend it was Lieberman alone. Ben Nelson was also instrumental in killing the public option.

[–] whostosay 14 points 1 day ago

This is really well thought out and written, and the most popular comment on this post.

Please consider adding links at the bottom for some movements we can get behind to achieve this goal. The time for a new candidate isn't when Biden suddenly wants to drop out and fuck us over, the time is now.

[–] tootoughtoremember 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we please resurrect FDR, we need a newer deal.

[–] Tyfud 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sure. But the cost of the incantation is another great depression.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

I'm gonna be depressed for the next 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

It's working already!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

gestures broadly at the insane protectionist shit Trump et al are doing and the effects it’s bound to have

…so when do we get FDR Mk. 2 again?

[–] TropicalDingdong 11 points 1 day ago

Always the victims and never responsible.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

“well the democrats sure did fix X when they finally had the levers of power

Dems only had "the levers of power" for 4 months out of like 40 years, when they weren't stymied and blockades. That's a big to-do list for so short a time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

Ok what did they do in those 4 months.

You see what republicans do the moment they get any kind of power? They have shit ready to go. New tax plan, sure half of it is scribbles in the margins, but push it through. No child left behind? Why not, let’s just overhaul the education system, no need to know what we are doing.

They just signed a bunch of executive orders reclassifying everyone as female and turning the government off. They just had them ready to go.

If I were locked out of power in a deeply broken nation, what else do I have to do but get together with the rest of my party and hammer out the shit we want to get passed when we get some power back.

What were they doing for the other months in that 40 years?! Sitting around dialing for dollars begging for plutocrats to give them enough money that they could do fuck all when they finally got power? Yea, that’s it. That’s what they did.

Why didn’t they have ANYTHING ready for when they had power? Why do they always act like “well now that the voters have given us a mandate, you know government is slow going, we don’t even have drafts ready to go to solve any of these problems. Gotta go get my thinking cap and a big cup of cocoa and noodle this… fuck we lost power again. Jimminy jillickers, I can’t believe our rotten luck”

Either they are the most incompetent gaggle of idiots ever assembled under one banner. Or the people that bought their seats for them would rather they talk a big game on msnbc and sit around and not threaten the broken system that has made them incredibly wealthy.

I’ll let you consider which is better.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 9 points 16 hours ago

If a party can’t have power for more than 4 months in 40 years they’re a terrible party and we need a new one.

[–] Uruanna 11 points 19 hours ago

Hey nice, you found evidence that it's not a recent trend at all for Democrats to fail elections because they can't be bothered to even talk about anything left enough. 40 years it is.

[–] Maggoty 15 points 1 day ago

Clinton era. It's not been great but the Democrats haven't even tried. The Republicans were out there talking about goals while the Democrats only ever offered tweaks. Nobody is going to get excited over "I'll keep the status quo!"

If they had spent the last 20 years actually advocating for progressivism and unions then they'd be winning more trifectas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

Imagine being this much of a brainwashed bootlicker