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"honey, today's your last day of work. Then it's just you and me 24hrs a day."
"I hate my wife" cue laughtrack
Or maybe we can not make facetious comments about a suicide that literally just happened?
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Got it, nobody gets to think or discuss until you feel safe.
I literally said the word "maybe" and ended it with a question mark and you've decided I want to silence people. Amazing.
All I was hoping for was people being a little tactful about a goddamn suicide, but I guess suggesting that doing that would be nicer is NAZI CENSORSHIP.
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I'll answer your question then: No.
Then accept that it’s as dickish as these comments.
This thread is fucked up. I hope nobody here has to think back to it one day and wonder if their loved one deserved to be made fun of even if they did wrong in life.
Well I'm sorry that you and others lack the small amount of empathy it takes to have the tact to not make fun of someone who literally just killed themselves.
But silly me, suicide his hilarious, do continue. I'm sure whatever he did was totally deserving of death and his wife and four kids will see the funny side. And if they don't, fuck their feelings.
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Sorry everyone, it’s this dude’s first day on the internet. He’ll get it eventually.
Yes, being on the internet totally excuses a lack of empathy and a tacit approval of suicide during a time of year where depression is at a height. Because there's nothing someone on the edge needs more right now than to see a bunch of people mocking someone who just died, confirming to them how worthless human life is and how no one will miss them either. Ask me how I know this, go ahead.
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Yeah, I remember back in the day, when the internet was free. It was lawless, but there were so many great things to see too.
Then a bunch of pussies noticed all the fun we were having, and they gave away all that freedom to the governments and corpos, asking them to build in blocking features and filtering horseshit, so that they didn’t accidentally see an image or idea that they didn’t already have predefined in their head.
Just completely destroyed something that was once so beautifully free, just because they were too much an imbecile and coward to face different ideas.
Sad really.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
Don't be a jackass, suck it up.
Sorry, I will continue to "be a jackass" and say that suicide is a bad thing and should not be encouraged.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
Sure, dude. Sure.
I'll just quote what I said to the other person:
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Get a grip man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
Maybe take a look at those big feels of yours.
What the fuck does that even mean?
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? I'm just happy a judge died.
As I asked someone else, would you be happy if a judge was raped?
And I said that because I was accused of trying to censor people by daring to suggest that maybe wait until the body is cold before making jokes. Turns out, based on an article someone else pasted, his wife ruined them financially, which could be a motive for the suicide rather than anything nefarious he may have done. Why is that a thing to be happy about, someone killing themselves because their spouse destroyed their future just because of their profession?
Also, are you suggesting we do away with judges? What would be the alternative?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
Sorry, the alternative to a judicial system is jokes? So someone commits a murder and you tell them a knock-knock joke?
Please name the person I have defended and quote me defending them. You can't, because that's a lie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
I'm just going to start replying with this link rather than explain why I know from personal experience that this encourages others to kill themselves:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
Idk if a judge offing himself because he lost his election bid would inspire many copy cats. His life wasn't ruined, it probably would've been if he hadn't died. But he didn't want to wait to find out apparently.
He did it in the courtroom, as in, his place of employment. You don't know what others are going through, and it's possible people could read this and choose to go out like this at their own job instead of at home or someplace else. Or maybe they'll see someone who ended it all at the peak and somehow think that means it's a non-terrible idea.
Or maybe nothing will happen. I don't know, what I do know is it's not cool to make fun of someone who was likely suffering from mental distress/sickness, especially while their family is still grieving. That's a dick move, even if there's little chance of copy cats.
A little empathy goes a long way. What we should take away from this is that mental illness can affect everyone, and we never know what others are going through, so we should always treat others like they're going through something really hard (and we'll probably be right more than we'd like to know).
Thank you.
What inspires people is seeing other people mocking a suicide victim and thinking, "see? This is what happens. No one cares if you live or die."
He's a judge. We should be punching up.
Would you say the same thing if a judge was raped?
This was suicide. No crime was committed.
That's not an answer. If we should be punching up when bad things happen to judges, why does that not apply to things that are crimes?
I still think we should punch up for some crimes. It depends on the crime.
But in this case, there's clearly no reason not to punch up, because this person is not a victim.
I've given the reason multiple times. I will give it again. And I will say again that I know this from personal experience, but that doesn't seem to matter to anyone:
Someone on the edge sees a bunch of people mocking a suicide and thinks, "this is what it will be like when I'm gone, no one will give a shit except to laugh at me." And it drives them closer to the edge themselves. (They don't think, incidentally, "well that guy's a judge so they'll mock a judge, but they definitely wouldn't do the same with me even though I'm even more worthless and despicable than that judge.")
I very sincerely hope suicide will not be something you will have to deal with in your life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
I said very clearly that this is punching up.
And I very clearly said:
You see it as punching up. A person on the edge of suicide sees it as validation.
For the umpteenth time, I know this from personal fucking experience.
Jesus Christ, all these people essentially telling me "nuh-uh, I know more about how suicidal people think than you do, all you ever did was attempt suicide." For fuck's sake.
Mod: The context was unfortunate but it appears to be sincere and it is absolutely appropriate to post hotline information in a thread discussing a death by suicide.
I can't help if people dont read what I write. All I can do is write clearly that I'm only celebrating when bad people at the top of hierarchies are ridding the world of their abuse.
You absolutely can help it if people suffering from suicidal thoughts can be affected by the things you say now that you know why it would affect them.
What you mean is you don't care.
I do care. My point is that I wrote it. All we can do is write clearly.